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Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?

 
#1 Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?
05/02/2015 21:28

CF Kane

Hopefully the question doesn't get dismissed straight away!

My background is in Strategy Consulting and having accumulated some niche FS experience I have offers from a couple of Tier 1 IBs. I'm also being considered by Google (no offer yet). I have no idea what the remuneration at Google is like, though obviously it's not about the money.

Given a choice which would you pick? GS or Google? I know you probably need a world of information as there are a hundred factors to take into account here but considering brand value/prestige, learning opps, potential for solid career progression, smart people, level of responsibility - which of the two is a better bet? I may have created an unrealistic image of an arty, creative, innovative, relaxed Google so will appreciate any inputs from someone who has actually worked there.

Did not know who to ask and this forum has always helped me in the past, Thanks!

CFK

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#2 RE: Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?
06/02/2015 15:47

Insultant to CF Kane (#1)

It's really hard to say without telling us what your niche knowledge is.

If you've invented a new killer way of modelling operational RWAs then go to GS. If you've gained experience in how to effectively apportion capital in a multinational tech company then I'd go for Google.

That said, having worked in banking for years before becoming a consultant I'd definitely pick Google. Plus GS has a reputation for being a horrid, ruthless place to work... far worse than my previous employers (who were dreadful themselves).

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#3 RE: Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?
06/02/2015 16:02

Bushy Eyebrow Partner to Insultant (#2)

Goldman pays a fortune but I guess they want a lot from u too

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#4 RE: Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?
06/02/2015 23:00

abc123 to Bushy Eyebrow Partner (#3)

100% Google. Money will be comparable, offices will be nicer, spend some time in San Fran, more interesting internal moves available.

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#5 RE: Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?
07/02/2015 08:41

Bushy Eyebrow Partner to abc123 (#4)

The benefits of GS are clear - Lots of money. The downsides are clear too - hard, hard work.

What are the pros and cons of Google?

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#6 RE: Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?
12/02/2015 00:34

CF Kane to Bushy Eyebrow Partner (#5)

Thanks everyone. This is very helpful. There seems to be a consensus on the work-life balance or lack thereof with GS. Sad really that for such a prestigious organisation no one has a decent word to say about them! When you research the organisation online you get this almost intimidatingly positive image of a financial services behemoth with stellar history, prestige and exit opportunities. And then you speak to the real people and quickly find out the conditions are nightmarish. I'm already getting paid a fortune and am miserable so will never take an offer on that basis from a bank.

Fingers crossed for an offer from Google.

Thanks again!

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#7 RE: Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?
12/02/2015 00:36

CF Kane to Bushy Eyebrow Partner (#5)

Pros are clear - Brand, extremely selective hiring so almost guaranteed smart peers, fun organisation etc.

Cons - might restrict someone to the tech industry, which obviously may or may not be an issue depending on the person.

The benefits of GS are clear - Lots of money. The downsides are clear too - hard, hard work.

What are the pros and cons of Google?

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#8 RE: Strategy Consultant - GS or Google?
12/02/2015 12:03

marsday to CF Kane (#6)

Thanks everyone. This is very helpful. There seems to be a consensus on the work-life balance or lack thereof with GS. Sad really that for such a prestigious organisation no one has a decent word to say about them! When you research the organisation online you get this almost intimidatingly positive image of a financial services behemoth with stellar history, prestige and exit opportunities. And then you speak to the real people and quickly find out the conditions are nightmarish. I'm already getting paid a fortune and am miserable so will never take an offer on that basis from a bank.

Fingers crossed for an offer from Google.

Thanks again!

I'm going to be contrary. Devil's Advocate if you will.

You are wrong about GS. And therefore also Google.

Google - on the outside, millenial, funky, creative, great people centre culture. Reality it Google is a profit machine no less than GS, and that sugar coating will rot your teeth quickly. What Google does do well - to some extent - is give people enough space to excel in their own way. That's fine - if you know what truly great looks like, how to get there, and how to communicate that outside of Google when the time comes. Most don't. I've seen people go there expecting the lights to come on, and then they don't. What often comes out is less impressive than the brand they left behind them. The best there are market changingly great - real rockstars. But there arent enough of them.

GS - yes you will work harder than you ever thought possible. But this is the brand which outstrips all others - ALL of them. The reason is that GS take people who are already great and makes them - phenomenal. Yes at a cost to your life balance, and yes even a cost to your humanity in some small way. But sure enough your 'average' GSer will eat your average MBBer for breakfast, belch, then start training for a marathon.

Forget online b*tching and what people say about the brand - focus on what you want the company to do for you first.

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