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Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory

 
#1 Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
12/02/2013 18:24

corky6

Hi guys,

Apologies for another a vs b thread..

Any input as to which is the better choice for a grad? I have a Science/Tech background with some banking experience. So far I've been put off E&Y by all the talk on here about it being 80% assurance work, however I'm thinking it may provide good exit options to banks a little down the line? Not that I'm necessarily looking for that..

I'm also under the impression Deloitte is the much stronger brand for consulting?

Any input very much appreciated

corky

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#2 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
14/02/2013 20:37

corky6 to corky6 (#1)

bumpage..

anyone got any views?

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#3 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
15/02/2013 16:15

marsday to corky6 (#2)

Neither is better for a grad - you can't go wrong with either, and don't be concerned about the talk about assurance work at EY on here..that refers actually to only certain parts of EY work, specifically around controls and risk, which overlap between advisory and pure audit work.

Good exit options with banks? Not specifically. Banks dont actually see Big 4 as consultants, they seem them as accountants+, but there are some good mid-office jump off points.

The difference will come down to whether you prefer the people at one over the other, the money on offer, and whether either will put you on to some useful certification programme. If either mentions ACA bite their hand off at the elbow.

And we expect you to jump ship as soon as your grad programme is completed.

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#4 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
15/02/2013 20:48

corky6 to marsday (#3)

Thanks mars, much appreciated.

They both offer the same CIMA qualification

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#5 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
18/02/2013 08:05

marsday to corky6 (#4)

Ok look at it another way. All things being equal do you want to work for a system integrator with a slice of consultancy or a consulting firm with a slice of assurance work? Deloitte has been moving into an SI model for some time (successfully I might add) and is perhaps more closely aligned to the likes of ACN (better culture though). They are also aggressively growth orientated - so more options to move around the business.

Deloitte's consulting brand is stronger out of longevity rather than much else - they didnt exit consulting like EY did. EY has a strong brand in FS though - if that's what matters, and are more purely consulting focused (if you want to be really pedantic).

That all said, if all things are equal (or close enough to make no difference) I would probably choose Deloitte over EY if for no other reason than Deloitte and PwC are seen as the strongest Big 4 brands when it exit time comes.

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#6 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
18/02/2013 12:52

jaysan to marsday (#5)

I would agree to some extent with mars but I would suggest, you should ask yourself what's your long term goal is? It doesn't matter which firm you join, it all dependds which project you get-into. Also, which practice you are joining, so if you are joining as different practices has different focuses.

In my view, culture wise both firms are the same but work wise Deloitte has edge as they are into advisory to delivery. so you wil get an opportunity to work into delivery as well, which is important for somone who is starting his/her career. As developing strategy is not always seen good unless you have implemented it.

On the other hand, E&Y has edge on strategy related work as they are not into delivery like Deloitte. So the work you will do in E&Y is like B&G or M. But again, you may not get delivery experience which is quite useful in long term.

If you would like to learn business, process and strategy then suggest E&Y other wise Deloitte. But whichever you choose, you will do well.

Good Luck

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#7 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
22/02/2013 10:43

corky6 to jaysan (#6)

Thanks guys, some very helpful stuff to ponder there.

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#8 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
16/03/2013 12:56

corky6 to corky6 (#7)

A bit of an update here - turns out the foundation CIMA qualification is only on offer from EY. With Deloitte it is a somewhat obscure 'Business Math' module and BCS qualification.

With this in mind (and also this http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/2250464/e-y-knock-pwc-off-superbrand-top-spot), I'm leaning toward EY.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

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#9 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
18/03/2013 09:06

tom1 to corky6 (#8)

You could do worse.

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#10 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
26/03/2013 05:42

corky6 to tom1 (#9)

Okay..

Its getting really close to crunch decision time, and I'm still uncertain! I am leaning toward EY for the above reasons, but just have this niggly feeling that deloitte still have the edge brand wise and will look stronger on the CV! arghhhh

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#11 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
26/03/2013 08:34

marsday to corky6 (#10)

For finance sector work EY still carries an edge over Deloitte. Bear in mind also that EY has a relatively small FS audit roster - meaning their advisory practice has mucn more latitude on consulting projects in the sector. They also have a strong reputation in the banking sector, driven not least by their risk advisory work, with the tech programmes which inevitably cascade from that work. Deloitte will offer a more SI environment, bigger spend projects, but more lateral - dont expect to build significant depth in FS early.

The CIMA qualification should swing it. Better if it was ACA but CIMA is still a premier qualification.

Put it this way. Join EY and think downwards into the SI work, or join Deloitte and watch as your superiors push up into advisory work. Now add the CIMA qualification which will give you a lifetime of options.

For me, EY wins this one by a nose.

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#12 RE: Deloitte Tech Consulting vs E&Y IT FS Advisory
26/03/2013 10:03

$0.02 to marsday (#11)

Sorry to add this now, but somewhere along the line you have been slightly misled about no CIMA at Deloitte for technology. It's more like this CIMA is not part of the 21 month programme for Technology but they do offer you to do it, you have to write some sort of business case stating why/how it will add value. Point is of the graduates I knew in 3 tech areas all were doing CIMA. Bear in mind though that as it is not part of your 21 month training the onus is on you to ensure you make time for it.

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