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Prince 2 or Six Sigma

 
#1 Prince 2 or Six Sigma
15/01/2013 23:03

Eng

Planning to take both qualification to boost my resume to get into consulting? #Reflect

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#2 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 08:18

Mr Cool to Eng (#1)

Both are window dressing, relatively expensive to acquire and worthless without relevant work experience.

If you are already getting interviews but feedback is that you are being beaten by candidates with these quals, then it's a maybe. If you're not getting interviews than they will not help.

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#3 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 12:45

DiamondSea to Mr Cool (#2)

+1 for MrCool, plus the two qualifications are so different it doesn't even make sense to compare them.

Also consider the PMI one instead of Prince2, the former seems to be a bit more universal, Prince2 is supposedly slanted toward the public sector.

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#4 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 14:04

Anon MCs to DiamondSea (#3)

Hi All,

I would partly disagree with the advice provided.

PRINCE2 - This one is all about giving you that little bit of extra help in getting interviews for Project Management jobs. You must have the right experience, but PRINCE2 shows that you have the basics from a "standard" point of view. None of us use it, but most of my colleagues expect PMs to have something like it on their CV.

Lean - Yes its a bit of a fad, but if you're going for an "Operations Optimisation" type of role then it doesn't really hurt to have this. Again, it just helps to open the door to the interview that little bit more but will not get you there if you have no decent experience.

Rgds Anon

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#5 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 15:27

Bushy Eyebrow Partner to Anon MCs (#4)

Have you considered taking up Judo?

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#6 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 16:32

Anon MCs to Bushy Eyebrow Partner (#5)

Bushy Eyed

Your advice is about as useful as an inflatable dartboard.

Or a solar powered torch.

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#7 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 17:12

Bushy Eyebrow Partner to Anon MCs (#6)

Or a "Lean" qualification.

LOL.

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#8 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 18:52

Camster to Mr Cool (#2)

Not sure about Prince 2, but the other one, PMP, you can't achieve it without work experience.

6 Sigma is useful, but became commercialised. Saying that, some of the aspects I learned proved useful in op engagements. If you really want to do this (I think it's a waste if you can't back it up with exp), then go for a master black belt programme, don't waste time on yellow or green. IF you want more details, providers, etc., let me know and I will dig up these info.

There are more interesting things in life though, e.g. House of Lies :)

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#9 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 22:58

Anon MCs to Bushy Eyebrow Partner (#7)

Bushy Eyed,

Hats off to ya, great comeback. Lean is like a TVR, looks good but overpriced and useless. Alfa Romeo? Don't get me started!

But let's continue;

Your advice was as useful as an inflammable matchstick.

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#10 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
16/01/2013 23:14

Mr Cool to Anon MCs (#9)

To be fair, you "partly disagreed" with the opinion offered by me and DS, then went on to completely agree with us.

Are you by any chance a management consultant offering a "different" perspective from the outside world?

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#11 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
17/01/2013 09:45

Eng to Bushy Eyebrow Partner (#7)

Thanks all for the advice.

No interview have been secured so far but I thought these qualifications maybe will help.

I would love to hear the alternatives qualifications/training that I could take to boost a CV with no relevant experience in consulting?

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#12 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
17/01/2013 09:57

Eng to Mr Cool (#2)

Thanks Mr Cool

I did not get any interviews as I only start applying last November.

I am trying to moving from engineering to consulting relaying on the transferable skills and showing my interest in working for consulting by taking up some qualifications.

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#13 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
17/01/2013 11:58

Anon MCs to Mr Cool (#10)

Explain.

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#14 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
17/01/2013 13:32

Mr Cool to Anon MCs (#13)

They are a waste of time without the experience.

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#15 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
17/01/2013 13:40

Mr Cool to Eng (#11)

Eng,

If you are determined to add a qual to your cv then pay 100 quid to do the prince2 foundation exam. The prince2 book will set you back another 30ish (new).

When you've passed put "prince 2 Foundation 2013 ( currently studying for Practitioner Level" on your CV.

As a young "lady" once said to me while resting her sore feet on a barstool in Las Vegas, "why dress up what you're trying to sell in a thousand dollar Versace dress when you can get the point

across just fine in a five-buck bikini top"

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#16 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
17/01/2013 16:12

Anon MCs to Mr Cool (#15)

Oh come on Mr Cool, if that bikini top is underneath a nice Versace then surely that doesn't hurt!?!

I'm not a big brands person, but prefer the ladies with a nice set of pins and shoes rather than 70's green tracksuit and stark white trainers...

But do get your point and agree, PRINCE2 Foundation is cheap and a good start

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#17 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
17/01/2013 16:59

Eng to Anon MCs (#16)

Did you just notic how we started with professional qualification question and ends up talking about... well ..... bikini and underwear!

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#18 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
17/01/2013 22:34

Mr Cool to Eng (#17)

Ive been in consulting of one sort or another for 20 years and the best analogies inevitably involve prostitutes.

Go figure.

My favourite joke?

What's the difference between a prostitute and a management consultant?

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#19 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
18/01/2013 08:53

DiamondSea to Mr Cool (#18)

No death by PowerPoint when dealing with a prossie?

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#20 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
22/04/2013 11:48

Eng to Eng (#1)

I just thought to update this post as I have now attained PRINCE2 Practitioner qualification and hoping it will enhance my CV to get into consulting.

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#21 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
22/04/2013 14:55

Anon MCs to Eng (#20)

How was it?

Do you feel "Princefied"!?! Are you now a super prince!?!

On a serious note, I think doing PRINCE2 is never a bad thing if you are going on client site and will be running projects on their behalf

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#22 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
23/04/2013 10:02

rc to Anon MCs (#21)

@Mr Cool - three months on, I'm still trying to think of the difference between a management consultant and a prostitute and haven't come up with any yet..

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#23 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
23/04/2013 10:28

Mr Cool to rc (#22)

When client pays a prostitute the prostitute gets screwed

When a client pays a management consultant the client gets screwed

But you're right - its splitting hairs...

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#24 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
23/04/2013 11:22

Anon MCs to Mr Cool (#23)

Surely the biggest difference is that Management Consultants are more handsome and vain...!?!

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#25 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
23/04/2013 12:34

Mr Cool to Anon MCs (#24)

It's not vain if its true...

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#26 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
23/04/2013 13:22

Anon MCs to Mr Cool (#25)

I reckon we are just as handsome as Julia Roberts!?!

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#27 RE: Prince 2 or Six Sigma
24/04/2013 17:57

rc to Anon MCs (#26)

there's seldom a happy ending with a consultant

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