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Cap Gemini

 
#1 Cap Gemini
08/02/2005 17:46

Steve

Hi there.

Does anyone know if CG are going to be recruiting graduates this year, as their website seems to be a bit frozen - saying that they will be recruiting later in the year.

Any insights would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

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#2 Re: Cap Gemini
10/02/2005 01:44

A consultant

Why do you want to work for Cap? They are in fifth place when it comes to the Big 5 consulting. Get in with Accenture, IBM and Deloitte.

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#3 Re: Cap Gemini
10/02/2005 11:36

Another Consultant

Capgemini are a great firm to work for (speaking from personal experience)and are indeed recruiting for graduates during 2005. There will in fact be 4 further intakes this year on the following dates:

March 7th

May 9th

September 19th

October 24th

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#4 Re: Cap Gemini
10/02/2005 12:29

K

What area[s] are you thinking of applying to?

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#5 Re: Cap Gemini
10/02/2005 14:02

Nicky

Capgemini has a superb graduate recruitment programme - both for IT graduates (Accelerated Technologist Programme) and for Management Consulting (the Consultant Development Programme). Both schemes are recruiting this year - IT graduate scheme is open. The Management Consulting scheme will open in the next 10 days on the website for a Sept 05 start.

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#6 Re: Cap Gemini
10/02/2005 19:06

Steve

I'm thinking of applying to the Consulting part, rather than the IT wing. Can anyone give good insights into the CDC scheme? From the website it looks like an exciting proposition.

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#7 Re: Cap Gemini
10/02/2005 21:33

Anon

I also have personal experience with this firm as an experienced hire - I left within a year because their business model and ways of treating consultants on the ground are deplorable - if you join them as a grad expect not to be listened to (you will be told that you matter though), be placed on non challendging assignments (from my experience, having a cdc grad work alongside meant over enthusiastic and adding little value - cheap too - they pay terrible and the people are two faced - I since went onto a smaller firm, earn 15k more and really enjoy the bunch of guys I work with. Remember, you have been warned. Anon

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#8 Re: Cap Gemini
11/02/2005 10:01

K

I joined CS in May as a consultant and have had an enjoyable time there so far. I've worked for Accenture in the past and certainly prefer CG to them. The culture is a fun one [certainly in my group] and they are very supportive of your development and ideas to improve the business.

As far as the CDC goes, I don't have much experience as I didn't go through it. However, I do know that the people in there are very intelligent and well respected throughout CS. It is a very competitive scheme to get onto so good luck if you decide to apply.

In response to the more negative posts here, I don't believe CG is a bad place to work. Others may have different experiences which is fine but I do not agree with them. The main difference I have experienced between Acn and CG is that you are more of a management consultant in CG and less of a systems implementer. The work they do is not just in support of IT so there is broader scope for you to work. I'm sure Acn do this too but it is such a vast company that it is unlikely you will experience it that often. I have many friends on the grad scheme at ACN who are in charge of databases, act as PAs to senior staff or man phones in project offices - not really consulting. In my opinion, you will have a better experience at CG.

Hope this helps and isn't as pathetically negative and dismissive as some of the other comments!

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#9 Re: Cap Gemini
11/02/2005 12:20

Anon

K

I am just reflecting the reality of working for Capgemini as I and many, many others (even from accenture) have revealed. You either tow the party line in Capgemini or you are out - hardly innovative or what I would describe as proper consulting. Do not mistake my comments as negative and dismissive, rather they are informative and designed to ensure that prospective consultants really know what they are getting into. Yes the CDC are an intelligent bunch of people, but no they do not get to work on projects where they are listened to - this is a fact, whatever you or others say. The purpose of this forum is to educate and provide balanced opinion - I am revealing to you what the company themselves do not put in the brochures. End of story.

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#10 Re: Cap Gemini
11/02/2005 12:36

S

I've been with Capgemini's consulting services division for 12 months. I joined as an experienced hire so have no direct experience of the CDC but I wanted to support K's positive experiences. I've worked on some fantastic, varied projects over the past year and met/worked with great people. I've worked with a number of people in the CDC and have to re-iterate that they are generally very intelligent and competent people. In my experience they do have an opportunity to contribute on projects and are given a degree of flexibility in their work. They may not always be asked for their opinions/ideas but that is the reality of working with more experienced individuals and will be the case in any organisation.

I joined another big 5 consultancy as a graduate and wish that my programme had been as comprehensive and supported as CDC is. Most definitely a great opportunity for any graduate looking to get into consulting. Hope this helps!

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#11 Re: Cap Gemini
11/02/2005 14:34

K

Anon,

Fair point. I do accept that it's good to get a balanced view for prospective employees. However, I cannot agree with your statement about "towing the party line". Again, this is merely my experience. I do believe your comment on the CDC is valid. But, it's the reality of being at the bottom of the pile that you may not be heard very often. I believe that, as a CDCer, you are heard occassionally and that's when you can make a difference. In my opinion, that is the difference between a grad at Cap and a grad at ACN or IBM etc.

In answer to you Steve, I'd say go for it and good luck. If you don't like it, you have a respectable company on your CV and hopefully some good experience.

Cheers,

K

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#12 Re: Cap Gemini
11/02/2005 14:47

Steve

OK thanks all for your (varied) contributions! It is good to get a well-rounded opinion of a company and differing points of view offer valuable insight. Hopefully I can progress in the application procedure and try to get an impression myself of the culture etc at CG.

Take care, Steve.

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#13 Re: Cap Gemini
11/02/2005 18:28

Anon

Steve

If you decide to go for it, my advice is to interview the interviwer, ask questions that are difficult to answer and if you get the position, use them for their training, leave after 2 years and then smaller firms will value you in every way. Good luck - you have been warned.

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#14 Re: Cap Gemini
07/03/2005 14:40

Chris

They are no more a Consulting firm, but an Outsourcer and a Bodyshoper.

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