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S.A.P. or "sap"

 
#1 S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 12:26

Mr Consultant

OK, not related to careers but I make no apologies:

Most of us whether in IT Consulting, MC or industry will sometimes come across SAP. Can someone tell me once and for all whether SAP is pronounced "S.A.P." or "sap" please??

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#2 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 12:38

EY'er to Mr Consultant (#1)

Surely it makes little difference?

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#3 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 14:04

Marquis Cholmondley-Warner to EY'er (#2)

Mr Consultant,

You sir, are a Sap!

If you haven't got better things in life to be worrying about and behave like a man then I challenge you to a duel - pistols at dawn...

(cue: effeminate slap around the face with my glove)

What say you?

Marquis Cholmondley-Warner Esq.

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#4 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 14:46

Chav to Marquis Cholmondley-Warner (#3)

Yous pronounce it sap innit

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#5 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 18:12

Mr Consultant to Marquis Cholmondley-Warner (#3)

Whatevs

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#6 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 19:05

Wandering Man to Mr Consultant (#5)

Like poker, there are "tells" that distinguish an amateur from a professional. This is but a small example of such differentiators.

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#7 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 20:08

Mr Caliber to Mr Consultant (#1)

S.A.P is an acronym and is pronounce as S.A.P and not 'sap'.

Hope it clarifies.

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#8 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 20:50

Mr Consultant to Mr Caliber (#7)

Now that wasn't so hard, was it. Thanks

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#9 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
08/02/2011 21:02

jj to Mr Consultant (#8)

An acronym by definition is pronounced as a word. So if S.A.P. is an acronym then it is pronounced sap.

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#10 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
09/02/2011 23:23

Mr Caliber to jj (#9)

Please try pronouncing I.B.M. Hope you get it now. :-)

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#11 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
10/02/2011 13:10

IBMr to Mr Caliber (#10)

What? Everyone in IBM (at least in my office) pronounces this ibm.

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#12 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
10/02/2011 13:56

jj to Mr Caliber (#10)

ibm is not an acronym

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#13 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
10/02/2011 14:44

rc to jj (#12)

but HAL was..

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#14 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
10/02/2011 15:44

Aidan Ryan Simon Everest to rc (#13)

I'm an acrostic

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#15 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
10/02/2011 17:33

kk to Aidan Ryan Simon Everest (#14)

"IBM is not an acronym"

That's a good one! It is indeed an acryonym, it stands for International Business Machines

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#16 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
10/02/2011 17:38

Evil Consultant to kk (#15)

People often mistake initialisms for acronyms.

An acronym is a pronounced word which is made up of the initial letters of a the series of words for which it stands, e.g. Laser (Light Amplification by a Stimulated Emission of Radiation.)

On the other hand, an initialism is a series of letters pronounced as such which stands for a series of words, e.g. QED (Quod Erat Demonstrandum.)

EC

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#17 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
10/02/2011 18:30

Mr. Caliber to Evil Consultant (#16)

Interesting point Evil Consultant. Thanks for the info.After reading about acronyms and initialisms on wikipedia, I understand that the difference between the two is bit of a grey area.

The funny thing is acronym S.A.P has a german origin and stands for 'Systemanalyse und Programmentwicklung' ("System Analysis and Program Development"). Suits perfectly as an acronym (as per the defination of acronym -source wikipedia).

Later, however, the acronym was changed to 'Systeme, Anwendungen und Produkte in der Datenverarbeitung ("Systems, Applications and Products in Data Processing"). Now it fits for 'initialism'

Anyways, without deviating from the main question,i.e, S.A.P or 'sap', please note the following quotation and presumably the reason why S.A.P company itself doesn't want their company name to be pronounced as 'sap'.

Iron rusts from disuse; water loses its purity from stagnation ... even so does inaction sap the vigour of the mind.” Leonardo da Vinci

Meaning of the word 'sap' :

• SAP (noun)

The noun SAP has 3 senses:

1. a watery solution of sugars, salts, and minerals that circulates through the vascular system of a plant

2. a person who lacks good judgment

3. a piece of metal covered by leather with a flexible handle; used for hitting people

• SAP (verb)

The verb SAP has 2 senses:

1. deplete

2. excavate the earth beneath

Hope it helps.

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#18 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
10/02/2011 23:14

anon to Mr. Caliber (#17)

People who use S.A.P. will say S.A.P. and get annoyed by people who say SAP, your average man in the street would probably say SAP.

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#19 RE: S.A.P. or "sap"
11/02/2011 06:51

The Oracle to anon (#18)

And those in the know call it ScrAP

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