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how does this compare?

 
#1 how does this compare?
16/09/2010 22:21

danni

I've just been made an offer of a senior consultant role in public sector consulting with one of the big 4. I'm delighted, but wanted to get a feel for how good the salary I've been offered is before I start negotiating.

I've been offered 59k, with no bonus. How does this compare with other starting salaries for a senior consultant role?

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#2 RE: how does this compare?
17/09/2010 12:57

more-info to danni (#1)

Danni,

need some more info as the 'Senior Consultant' role has different meaings across the big 4. Could you please let us know which of the big 4 it relates to? Also, roughly how many years experience do you have?

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#3 RE: how does this compare?
17/09/2010 14:26

Recruiter alert to more-info (#2)

What are the chances that 'more-info' is a recruiter trolling for data...

More-info, if you are genuine I am sure you won't mind posting the info you have on the different levels at Big 4 firms? Just what you know. Then Danni is not at risk of revealing too much. It may be helpful to her, it may not. and it may help others

Very public spirited of you

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#4 RE: how does this compare?
17/09/2010 17:36

more-info to Recruiter alert (#3)

Recruiter alert - lol. Couldn't be further from the truth. Here is an example: at PwC, levels are: Associate, Senior Associate, Consultant, Senior Consultant, Director, Partner.

Now at ACN (ok, not big 4 in the original sense of the term), it is: Analyst, Consultant, Manager, Senior Manager, Partner.

Everyone has different terms, and even using the term 'consultant' as a level may be different.

Danni - if you are trying to hide the firm you are applying to, at least indicate number of years experience/level to determine salary...

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#5 RE: how does this compare?
17/09/2010 18:44

danni to danni (#1)

Hi guys,

sorry - I didnt realise there were different definitions of senior consultant (I've been a civil servant all my career to date - mix of local government, Home Office and Heath).

The firm is E+Y. I have 5 years directly relevant experience.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

danni

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#6 RE: how does this compare?
30/10/2010 04:36

u r getting hosed to danni (#5)

You can't possibly be in the US accepting USD

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#7 RE: how does this compare?
08/12/2010 01:16

Big Consultant to danni (#1)

Is it really possible EY is paying a Snr Consultant (the grade above entry level) 59K?

That is a bargain and the half considering the grades in EY as I understand it is:

Consultant

Snr Consultant

Manager

Associate Director

Director

Partner

Most other big 4 and full service firms would be paying in the 40s for that grade level.

Is EY really paying that well?

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#8 RE: how does this compare?
08/12/2010 09:49

Ex Cap to danni (#1)

Not B4 but Capgemini 70k+ benefits for snr con C3/T7 grades

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#9 RE: how does this compare?
08/12/2010 11:26

taxrebate to Ex Cap (#8)

delighted to see anyone leave the civil service - welcome to the net producer rather than consumer side of the economy! .....though of course that's questionable if the consulting activity is in public sector, hmmm

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#10 RE: how does this compare?
08/12/2010 12:30

Big Consultant to Ex Cap (#8)

Ex-Cap,

But Capgemini's Snr Consultant is equivalent to EY's Manager, not EY's Snr Consultant which is equivalent to Capgemini's Consultant (C2) that pays in the 40s (mainly mid and low) + benefits.

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#11 RE: how does this compare?
08/12/2010 12:58

someguy to Big Consultant (#10)

"big Consultant"

How can you profess that Cap's Consultant level pays low/mid 40s and Snr Consultant pays 70s? Wow that's... implausible. Do you have ANY clue what you're wittering on about or do you just like derailing useful threads with random open ended questions? Be detailed and descriptive lest I question your intelligence.

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#12 RE: how does this compare?
08/12/2010 13:20

Dave to someguy (#11)

Heh, it's catchy isn't it. Asking people to be detailed and descriptive almost always uncovers BS.

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#13 RE: how does this compare?
08/12/2010 13:35

Big Consultant to someguy (#11)

someguy,

Good morning. How are you?

If we are going to talk about intelligence, I would want you to take a sit back and review this thread very carefully. You might just be able to reveal that I was not the one that professed that a Snr Consultant makes 70K. I was merely responding to that post.

I take it without a shadow of a doubt that you are smart enough to know Big Consultant is highly likely to be different from Ex-Cap, especially if one is responding to the other's post.

That said, if you are looking for detail and descriptiveness, you can look at my post on salary ranges in Capgemini on Thread ID 68798.

You will find 70K coincidental falls within the range for Snr Consultant but at the high end, and the entry satisfy your hunger for detail and descriptiveness.

Cheers, mate!

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#14 RE: how does this compare?
08/12/2010 13:42

Dave to Big Consultant (#13)

I see a fight coming on! He called him "mate"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#15 RE: how does this compare?
21/12/2010 20:09

EY Mger to danni (#1)

Wow, I work for EY and I think thats the starting salary for a manager in EY - its what I got when I was promoted to manager. That said, pay grades were re-baselined if you were promoted last year and got a good uplift. Either good neg at the interview or EY are giving existing staff a good shafting on pay - the pay deal was 3% uplift and a 2.5% bonus starting this year

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