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Prince2 - do I need it?

 
#1 Prince2 - do I need it?
08/06/2010 22:46

Anon

As a management consultant, do you think I need Prince2 certification - just to add feather to my cap?!

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#2 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
09/06/2010 17:58

Prince among consultants to Anon (#1)

frankly I can't get through the day without it, and wonder how I ever managed before. The plebs across the street dont seems to have Prince2 and you can tell - their gait lacks flair and frankly I suspect they all work in computers.

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#3 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
09/06/2010 18:57

Anon to Prince among consultants (#2)

@ Prince among consultants -

Sounds quite encouraging! There are many things we do wonder how we survived without having them - online banking, Blackberry, etc.

Where there is no corporate training available for Prince2, do you suggest I go it alone and foot all the bills myself? Is it really worth it?

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#4 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
10/06/2010 08:15

Mars A Day to Anon (#1)

Anon I think it will depend on what kind of consulting you are currently doing and where you are looking to go. If you are currently working and have experience I would say there is not much point paying for your own Prince2 - ask internally and there may be opportunities to get on to some internal training. If you are out of the market the Prince2 could help close a gap on your CV, but in either case it wont make a big impact on your CV.

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#5 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
10/06/2010 09:52

Princely to Mars A Day (#4)

Both levels are 3 days of self-study then you can head out to an exam centre in London. It's an easy qualification to get, so not well regarded. I did it, but only because my company funded it and I was on the bench at the time. It's not on my CV now though, and you're probably better off "selling" any decent PM experience you have than saying you have Prince2 expert or whatever it's called.

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#6 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
10/06/2010 10:08

disagree to Princely (#5)

I think you cannot sell any pm/prog mgr experience <b>without</b> having Prine 2, PMP or MSP on your CV.....you'll just get filtered out.

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#7 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
10/06/2010 12:10

Mr Cool to Anon (#1)

Prince2 (yes I’m qualified) is very UK centric and almost only ever USED in public sector environments. HOWEVER, numerous banks and other larger organisation routinely request it when advertising for contract or permanent Project Managers. It is rarely USED in these environments, as most banks etc have their own similar but slightly more relaxed structure process for project delivery. In this respect PRINCE2 becomes a label that says you understand structured PM methods.

I have rarely heard of management consultants being required to have it by their clients – when you are paying 1500 a day for a PM it’s a lot more important that they have delivered similar sized projects before, than that they have a piece of paper.

There are two further issues worth considering: often stupid under-trained, tick-the-box recruitment agents (I do not mean all agents) slavishly write down verbatim what their clients says they need and then reject excellent candidates because they do not tick the PRINCE2 box, as such a lot of contractors take the course just to make sure they are never rejected for not having it. Conversely attaining PRINCE2 is 99% never going to help you break into project management if you have no experience. It is more likely that you would manage a few small projects without it (or perhaps have the foundation certificate only) and then consolidate and formalise your experience by taking the Practitioner course.

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#8 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
10/06/2010 13:38

Prince of Persia to Mr Cool (#7)

Mars a Day, how would you identify if somebody is suitable in this situation please sir?

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#9 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
15/06/2010 09:58

Village Idiot to Prince of Persia (#8)

PRINCE2 was the most useless course I've ever done, in terms of helping me develop professionally, but it was one of the biggest door-openers for new roles.

Headhunters search on PRINCE2 and employers demand the qualification, even if they never ask you to use the skills. It becomes a 'quality stamp' that they use to identify suitable candidates.

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#10 RE: Prince2 - do I need it?
15/06/2010 10:00

Junior Consultant to Village Idiot (#9)

What is the absolute cheapest way to get a Prince 2 certification? I will have to fund this out of my own pocket. Thanks.

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