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More job cuts at PA Consulting

 
#1 More job cuts at PA Consulting
26/10/2009 23:02

anon

Anyone know anything more about the announcement?

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#2 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
27/10/2009 14:39

anon2 to anon (#1)

think carefully before you respond. At least 3 people have been disciplined for posting on here.

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#3 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
27/10/2009 15:55

Anon to anon2 (#2)

They're probably going to cut your jobs anyway so post away...

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#4 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
27/10/2009 17:51

Anon3 to anon2 (#2)

This just shows that they are worried about leaks and their reputation in the outside world which seems to be suffering. Just don't use their laptop then you should be safe

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#5 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
27/10/2009 18:30

Anon to deleted (#0)

Or just use a colleague's laptop when they go for a whiz! Preferrably someone you don't like....

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#6 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
27/10/2009 19:05

BOP man to Anon (#5)

In BOP, we are being watched like hawks for using this forum. The partners have already accused a number of people of posting on here.

I haven't heard anything firm yet, but FT&P (as it was) seems to be the obvious candidate for cuts, particularly since the procurement specialists were made redundant. There are no finance experts left at MC level.

It is rumoured that the PC now leading the group will go up soon, but there have been no promotions in finance staff for at least 4 years now, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

We had a very big automotive shared services client, that is now going down the BPO route which PA Consulting can't / won't do.

Once that client goes away in the next few months, it is difficult to see where the business justification for keeping a finance offering on will be, particularly as one of the BOP partners has been very strongly against it since the start.

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#7 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
28/10/2009 06:47

Erik the Viking to BOP man (#6)

This post is just nonsense. There is no announcement about further job cuts.

Obviously a competitor trying to stir things up.

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#8 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
28/10/2009 08:37

Anon3 to anon2 (#2)

This just shows that they are worried about leaks and their reputation in the outside world which seems to be suffering. Just don't use their laptop then you should be safe

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#9 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
28/10/2009 13:18

The Watcher to Anon3 (#8)

Are all these "cuts" in the main consulting business or has the Cambridge centre or the ventures hit too?

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#10 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
28/10/2009 14:52

Cracker to The Watcher (#9)

The Cambridge Centre was definitely hit by the last round of job cuts...... They are also saving money by shutting off part of the building and squashing everying/everyone into a smaller space.

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#11 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
28/10/2009 16:22

Four not dross to Cracker (#10)

There will be no need for further cuts what with the number of people resigning recently

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#12 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
28/10/2009 18:01

PA person to Four not dross (#11)

I don't know. There are still a lot of people off the clock, particularly in Government. A lot of the public sector jobs are being deferred until after the election next year, so I think we will see more cuts in early 2010.

Profitability was good in 2009, so at least the bonuses should be OK

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#13 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
28/10/2009 22:05

I'm outa here to PA person (#12)

Was it? Will they??

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#14 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
29/10/2009 00:10

ex PA to I'm outa here (#13)

If I ever have a tough day ahead of me I just think back to my time at PA and somehow I feel so energised and happy with my life. Good luck to all those trying to get out but keep your guard up those who are still there and posting!

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#15 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
29/10/2009 10:43

J to PA person (#12)

PA Person,

I think you mean at least the bonuses for partners will be OK.

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#16 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
29/10/2009 17:08

BOP man to J (#15)

I don't think the bonuses for BOP in 2010 will be all that good. Over the past year and a bit, we have lost one partner and about 3 or 4 MCs. Sales have really suffered, so I think that the 2009 full year figures will be awful.

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#17 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
30/10/2009 18:22

yawn to BOP man (#16)

"In BOP, we are being watched like hawks for using this forum."

I wonder why, 5% of the firm yet 90% of the posts on here.

PA is still making very good money, bonuses will be decent in March.

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#18 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
30/10/2009 18:56

BOP man to yawn (#17)

C'mon dude. Get with the programme. Has no one told you that the usual cheerleaders response to any criticism of PA is to dismiss it as "boring" ?

The reason why so many BOP consultants post on here, is because our partners treat us like cr*p, and it has been like this since Andrew P left in 2006. He was a decent and kind man with good business acumen.

The partners and the MCs that have not left are very far from that model.

Good profits for 2009 ? I’ll believe it when I see it. Still, I s’pose at least there are so many people on PIPs now that there should be a lot fewer staff around in April to feast on the tiny bonus pool (once the partners have taken their 65% share)

Off out to the pub now. See ya

BOP man

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#19 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
01/11/2009 14:36

anon to BOP man (#18)

If you think PA treats its consultants badly spare a thought for the non-fee earning Corporate people. You can imagine what a bundle of joy that is.

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#20 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
01/11/2009 16:23

Cracker to anon (#19)

Yeah - second-class citizens, even by PA standards.

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#21 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
02/11/2009 17:09

SuperPOC to Cracker (#20)

Don't you all get bonuses in line with fee earning staff though?

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#22 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
02/11/2009 21:58

anon to SuperPOC (#21)

It is some consolation but with the same lack of transparency and strings attached like you guys. It does not seem worth it. Better off out of it.

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#23 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
03/11/2009 22:22

Cracker to anon (#22)

No, SuperPOC, we don't get bonuses in line with consultants. In our Practice, a PC with a 4 gets twice the percentage of a 'Support' with a 4. There is no consistency - it's 'let them eat cake'.

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#24 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
04/11/2009 18:38

Dexy to Cracker (#23)

But a consultant in one practice with a 2 can get twice as much as a consultant with a four in another practice. It's a lottery. No wonder it causes so much bad feeling, though some are chuffed whether justified or not.

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#25 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
04/11/2009 20:29

Big Ben to Dexy (#24)

It's not a lottery at all. Someone with a 2 in D&S will get more than someone with a 4 in, say, BOP simply because it's a much higher performing practice.

It's obvious that the best people in the best practices will be the best rewarded. The only people upset normally upset about bonuses are the folk in the BTG practices.

Still, you BTG lot can always pin your hopes on the Zombie Economy book hitting the Christmas bestseller list!

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#26 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
04/11/2009 23:00

at cracker to Cracker (#23)

"In our Practice, a PC with a 4 gets twice the percentage of a 'Support' with a 4. There is no consistency - it's 'let them eat cake'."

That's probably because the PC works 15-30 hours a week more (excluding travel time) and doing admin that most people would quite reasonably expect our ridiculous ratio of 1 admin to 3 staff to take care of for them.

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#27 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
04/11/2009 23:26

Cracker to at cracker (#26)

No, no, no 'at cracker'!! Our ratio is 1 admin to 15 consultants, and for that reason we also need to work long hours to get the work done. Your admin staff seem to have a good deal. Think I'll apply for a transfer, then I won't feel hard done by at bonus time!!

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#28 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
06/11/2009 22:25

Ex PA to BOP man (#6)

BOP Man - some interesting points made.

My perspective is that BOP needs leaders who are able to see the bigger picture and market opportunities rather than those who care only about themselves.

A willingness to invest to grow and take a risk is required rather than expecting those individuals with the desire to do something different to personally carry all the risk.

This is not restricted to BOP as I know of one individual who spent his time establishing a relationship who was rewarded with a 1 as he missed his targets - despite opening the door to a major new client.

Balanced agasint this is that harking about the past will solve nothing and the solution for anyone not happy with their lot is to do something about it.

If that means seeking a new role with a new employer then that is what you should do.

Sitting and moaning will solve nothing.

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#29 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
08/11/2009 10:33

Jellfish to Ex PA (#28)

"Moaning" solves nothing in one's own personal. On the other hand, "telling it as it is" on here may stop other people making a poor move into PA and save their suffering. Only a certain type of person can prosper at PA and in my experience it's not a particularly attractive one.

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#30 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
12/11/2009 23:23

MAH to Jellfish (#29)

@ Jellfish

You have it absolutely spot on. Too may of those that prosper are sycophants, constantly sucking up to partners, and stabbing their peers in the back at any opportunity.

And this behaviour is actively encouraged by the way in which people are assessed and rewarded.

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#31 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
13/11/2009 16:32

change the record to MAH (#30)

"And this behaviour is actively encouraged by the way in which people are assessed and rewarded."

Apart from the 360 degree review which stops behavior like that. But don't let that spoil your argument, boo hiss to PA eh?

Oh, I must be a "corporate drone" for sticking up for PA zzzzzzzzzzzz

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#32 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
13/11/2009 16:45

MAH to change the record (#31)

@ change the record.

Ah yes, the 360 review, with its anonymous peer input, obscure calculations (never successfully explained or justified) and the infamous line manager adjustments.

Designed to protect and reward the sycophants and grind out those who do not play the game.

Any company that uses such tactics, especially the undocumented and totally subjective line manager adjustments cannot claim to be ethical

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#33 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
14/11/2009 17:55

BOP man to deleted (#0)

PA's lawyers are busy with all the employment tribunals going on at the moment. I wonder how much all that is costing ?

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#34 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
14/11/2009 20:14

Que to BOP man (#33)

Are there any?

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#35 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
15/11/2009 21:30

bop man to Que (#34)

lawyers or tribunals? yes to both

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#36 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
15/11/2009 21:33

Que to bop man (#35)

How do you know? Where is it in the public domain?

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#37 RE: More job cuts at PA Consulting
16/11/2009 22:02

anon to Que (#36)

Well, there was a thread about it on this forum not so long ago, although the people who are doing it are being discreet.

And good luck to them I say. Go get them!

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