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PA day: August 12th

 
#1 PA day: August 12th
08/08/2009 16:05

PA person

End of the consultation period on Wednesday. Good luck everyone

Do you think our partners should offer to take a pay cut this year as they have steered this once top tier company into the muck?

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#2 RE: PA day: August 12th
09/08/2009 07:28

PAer to PA person (#1)

Will they publicise who's out? Noticed they've removed the leaving dates of people who have left from EIS.

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#3 RE: PA day: August 12th
09/08/2009 22:46

PA-er to PAer (#2)

I dont see any reason why we should publicise the names. Lets leave the decision to those who are leaving - Plain and simple.

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#4 RE: PA day: August 12th
09/08/2009 23:28

Hummingbird to PA-er (#3)

Colleagues might wish to say farewell to colleagues,

or colleagues might want to know what has happened to colleagues? Rather than people dissappearing into thin air. As I discovered on two separate ocassions this year with overseas colleagues. Why the secrecy? It's all above board, is it not? All red face tests have been passed? Unless someone expressly requests to be omitted, why suppress the truth?

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#5 RE: PA day: August 12th
09/08/2009 23:29

PA-er2 to PA-er (#3)

As Ali G would say, PA-er, "Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!"

Lets leave the sh*t to quietly float off into the Thames Estuary.

Now is the time for the company to be reborn. Whatch out Mckinseys!!!

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#6 RE: PA day: August 12th
10/08/2009 15:44

Another PAer to PA-er2 (#5)

These posts just show the worst site of this site - pointless gossiping. Why on earth would I need to see the names of those who have left? And why should my name be given to everyone? Those who I count as friends I will know about because they will tell me.

How can we get this site back to talking about important things and being a good place to go for advice?

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#7 RE: PA day: August 12th
10/08/2009 19:06

Shoot the messenger to Another PAer (#6)

"How can we get this site back to talking about important things and being a good place to go for advice?"

Probably best to substitute "this site" with "PA". Two birds with one stone, then. Perhaps start with not being disingenous with your employees and see where that gets you. Happy days.

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#8 RE: PA day: August 12th
11/08/2009 09:40

Another PAer to Shoot the messenger (#7)

Shoot the messenger - genius piece of comedy writing. And thanks for your insight.

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#9 RE: PA day: August 12th
11/08/2009 09:51

Snowball to Another PAer (#8)

Almost as insightful as the industry insight on the PA external website talking about fairness in dealing with employees in the downturn

Do as I say, not as I do

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#10 RE: PA day: August 12th
11/08/2009 18:45

Yet another PAer to Snowball (#9)

Shoot the messenger - my governing thought is that you smell and so you must be wrong. Now yield to my superior arguments and let us hear no more of this loose talk.

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#11 The hour is nigh...
12/08/2009 11:19

BOPper to Yet another PAer (#10)

Meeting called at 4pm today to tell us all the good news.

Even Surrallan would be ashamed at the poor way this whole communications process has been handled

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#12 RE: The hour is nigh...
12/08/2009 11:52

anon to BOPper (#11)

Is that a BOP meeting or PA meeting? Haven't heard from our guys

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#13 RE: The hour is nigh...
12/08/2009 22:20

anon to anon (#12)

...and?

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#14 RE: The hour is nigh...
13/08/2009 08:38

BOPper to anon (#13)

Three down in BOP – just waiting on the phone call today from the lead BOP partner.

Will post up more details at the end of the day.

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#15 RE: The hour is nigh...
14/08/2009 00:23

no post? to BOPper (#14)

BOPer said: "Will post up more details at the end of the day. "

oops! It seems he was escorted out of 123 without the chance of posting more details.

Go to an internet cabin and let us know!

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#16 RE: The hour is nigh...
14/08/2009 16:51

Mr Overreaction to no post? (#15)

So after all the "PA is finished" build up from BOPer over the last few weeks, 3 people get made redundant from one of the worst performing practices. That's similar to those who'd leave anyway under the performance system.

Can't beat a bit of overreaction. If BOPer hasn't been sacked, can he or she please resign and spare us all?

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#17 RE: The hour is nigh...
14/08/2009 19:27

J to Mr Overreaction (#16)

Can you not understand that if the PA recruitment process leads to a large percent of the work force being "incompetent" that itself says a lot about PA.

Or of course they aren't really incompetent but just unfortunate to find themselves on the bench at the wrong time, and nit sucking up to partners. Say they have legitimately got rid of all the under performers this time, and aren't recruiting. Have you worked out yet that next year that means they have to find under performers to sack from people they've said are above the bar this year.

First they came for people in BOP and I said nothing, then they came for..."

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#18 Not not nit
14/08/2009 19:30

J to J (#17)

Whoops, obviously meant "Not" because of course junior staff in PA don't spend copious amount s of time grooming the silverbacks for nits.Or do they?

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#19 RE: The hour is nigh...
14/08/2009 19:34

The Big Bopper to J (#17)

NB. That is 3 from one of the worst performing and SMALLEST practices. Don't underreact just yet.

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#20 RE: The hour is nigh...
15/08/2009 19:59

anon to The Big Bopper (#19)

It won't be pleasant I'm sure, after all, that's the "PA Way".

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#21 RE: The hour is nigh...
16/08/2009 16:44

Another BOPper to anon (#20)

Mr Overreaction said "So after all the "PA is finished" build up from BOPer over the last few weeks, 3 people get made redundant from one of the worst performing practices. That's similar to those who'd leave anyway under the performance system. "

You are obviously not in BOP if you can post such drivel. There have been a whole deluge of PIPs issued over the past month, and a number of written warnings given around utilisation which is a real cheek as the only way staff can be utilised is if our lazy partners sell work.

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#22 RE: The hour is nigh...
18/08/2009 13:27

Anon to Another BOPper (#21)

"a number of written warnings given around utilisation..."

Unbelievable and completely contrary to natural justice! No-one deliberately puts themselves on the bench, people can only be utilised when there is work for them to do and the partners are largely responsible for ensuring this. Giving warnings for low utilisation is like spitting in a strong wind, it will end up landing back on them and making them look ugly and ridiculous.

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#23 RE: The hour is nigh...
18/08/2009 19:04

Why surprised to Anon (#22)

Ugly and ridiculous, maybe. Considerably richer than you, definitely. No coincidence.

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#24 RE: The hour is nigh...
25/08/2009 06:21

anon to Why surprised (#23)

What's happened to BOPper?

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#25 RE: The hour is nigh...
25/08/2009 09:01

exPAer to anon (#24)

The secret to gaining and maintaining utilisation is to network effectively internally.

You can't just sit in your practice day after day asking your resource manager if the practice partners have sold any work that day.

Very few of the jobs I worked on at PA came out of my own practice and I always managed to keep myself busy (with not a single public sector process map in all the time I was there!).

If you're good you'll be busy, if not, you won't!

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#26 RE: The hour is nigh...
25/08/2009 10:46

anon to exPAer (#25)

"If you're good you'll be busy, if not, you won't!"

If you're good, you won't work for a failing second tier consulting company like PA

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#27 RE: The hour is nigh...
25/08/2009 11:55

anon to anon (#26)

yawn!

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#28 RE: The hour is nigh...
25/08/2009 12:44

anon to anon (#27)

"yawn"

very adult and helpful

PA Consulting is in the doldrums, staff are losing their jobs and facing pay cuts and you dismiss it as boring

Tw*t

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#29 RE: The hour is nigh...
25/08/2009 14:25

anon to anon (#28)

The "yawn" comment was addressed to the previous poster, who had taken the opportunity to make another oh so funny and unpredictable remark about PA, you tw*t!

I'm so glad I'm out of MC now given the level of muppetry and general unpleasantness on this forum. Let's just hope none of your potential clients take an interest in reading any of the posts.

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#30 RE: The hour is nigh...
25/08/2009 17:42

EX-PA to anon (#29)

Aaah!!

What a lovely warm caring organisation PA Consulting is, and how clever and witty their staff are.

Good to see that things have obviously gone to pot since I left there about 2 years ago.

I was never hugely impressed by the caliber of staff there - lots of people who graduated from some poly 10 years earlier and have worked on public sector jobs since.

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#31 RE: The hour is nigh...
25/08/2009 20:48

Another exPA to EX-PA (#30)

I was told even before I joined them that it was a deeply unpleasant and unhappy place to be but silly me I ignored it and thought it was all hyperbole.....and how wrong I was! PA is a truly revolting place to work.

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#32 : The hour is nigh...
26/08/2009 07:14

Yet another ex PA bod to Another exPA (#31)

Yep, success at PA doesn't depend on how good you are but on if your face fits, and generally that means having gone there straight from university and toadying your way up.

Just how caring are they? Well when the tube bombs went off the MC tutors on the internal training course I was on in 123 decided it was best not to tell us because it might have disrupted the course. They had, of course already been able to tell their families they were OK

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#33 RE: : The hour is nigh...
26/08/2009 09:47

ex-PAer to Yet another ex PA bod (#32)

"Yep, success at PA doesn't depend on how good you are but on if your face fits, and generally that means having gone there straight from university and toadying your way up."

That's complete rubbish and you know it. Direct entry grads are very much in the minority within PA. In the 3 years I was there I didn't once work with anyone straight out of Uni, and I certainly never met an MC or Partner who had only ever worked for PA?!!

It's fine to give reasons as to why you didn't like PA, I know I have mine, but don't start making stuff up!

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#34 RE: : The hour is nigh...
26/08/2009 10:08

ex PA to ex-PAer (#33)

That's true, a lot of the MCs and partners had left PA for proper jobs in the outside world and then came scurrying back at a higher grade. On the other hand those who came in with experience wholly outside of PA rarely stayed long.

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#35 RE: : The hour is nigh...
26/08/2009 10:31

Yes I am in PA to ex PA (#34)

To those who have left PA and continue to go on about how bad they thought it was - thank you for leaving.

To those who are still in PA and continue to go on about how bad they think it is - please leave.

To Top Consultant - you need to be making sure only grown ups can post on your forum. I thought this site was for professional people. Clearly not. It is for whingers mainly.

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#36 RE: : The hour is nigh...
26/08/2009 10:49

Yes I am in PA to ex PA (#34)

To those who have left PA and continue to go on about how bad they thought it was - thank you for leaving.

To those who are still in PA and continue to go on about how bad they think it is - please leave.

To Top Consultant - you need to be making sure only grown ups can post on your forum. I thought this site was for professional people. Clearly not. It is for whingers mainly.

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#37 RE: : The hour is nigh...
26/08/2009 21:15

Stanley to Yes I am in PA (#36)

"I certainly never met an MC or Partner who had only ever worked for PA?!!"

I can think of one, can't you? And what can you expect from someone who knows nothing but one firm.

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#38 RE: : The hour is nigh...
27/08/2009 14:20

Have you no life beyond PA? to Stanley (#37)

Back on topic it seems as if the redundancies are well below the scaremongering levels put on here. Indeed our friend BOPer would appear to be talking out of his or her backside. Yeah yeah, it's all being done on the hush hush, it can be the only explanation.

And isn't it fantastic that some people don't/ didn't like working there and are sad enough to come on here and change the topic every time anything remotely PA comes up, one would think they wouldn't be scouring MC forums if they're all in bigger, better jobs as they all claim. Also, there seems a remarkable amount of them have the same writing style too - funny that.

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#39 RE: : The hour is nigh...
27/08/2009 15:37

Life beyond PA to Have you no life beyond PA? (#38)

Back on topic of the redundancies - they have been handled appallingly by the company, and the post above shows just what contempt that management have for us.

If you treat staff like crap, then you can't be surprised when they post on external websites about it

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#40 RE: : The hour is nigh...
27/08/2009 19:12

Dipstick to Life beyond PA (#39)

Yes - I too noticed that there was a serial apologist posting on here. Rubbish writing style as well - this Smithers would never make it as a copywriter. I hope he's not getting paid to do this.

There's at least four different writing styles on here anyway. Wouldn't make it as an editor either.

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#41 RE: : The hour is nigh...
27/08/2009 19:22

Fact based decisions to Dipstick (#40)

" it seems as if the redundancies are well below the scaremongering levels put on here."

If the company has ended up making less than the 6% that it announced it was doing then that is good. But until the company announces something different then thems the facts. I'm sure that must be the case as nobody has left for months according to the internal information. Looking forward to the good news email confirming all this.

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#42 RE: : The hour is nigh...
28/08/2009 09:01

Beany to Fact based decisions (#41)

PA will emerge stronger and better than all the other consultancies put together after this recession. We are a world beating brand.

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#43 RE: : The hour is nigh...
28/08/2009 13:07

Mr Tickle to Beany (#42)

There is no doubt that PA will emerge stronger but think the previous poster has been on the gin!

Does anyone know anything about the all staff meeting called for Sept 7?

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#44 RE: : The hour is nigh...
28/08/2009 13:48

J to Mr Tickle (#43)

I thought he was being ironic.

PA might be stronger after the blood letting, but the question is where will they be compared to the competition? Have they handled the downturn better or worse than competitors and where does it place them to exploit the upturn when it comes?

I guess BP must be insulating them from the worst of the recession.

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#45 RE: : The hour is nigh...
28/08/2009 14:25

anon to J (#44)

PA is one of the strongest companies there is. they have excellent leadership that will successfully guide the company in the right direction. PA excels in all that it does.

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#46 RE: : The hour is nigh...
28/08/2009 15:23

PAer to anon (#45)

I am sure the meeting on the 7th is to tell us all that pay rises and promotions are on the table for everybody, and that we are never going to do any public sector work ever again.

The good times are back

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#47 RE: : The hour is nigh...
28/08/2009 18:32

HH to PAer (#46)

It's the laser-like, unremitting external focus that makes us the company we are today.

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#48 RE: : The hour is nigh...
30/08/2009 14:41

Redundant PAer to HH (#47)

The way the redundancies were handled was a disgrace; p### up & brewery spring to mind!! Don't care about employees, just a number on a balance sheet. Hope the partners enjoy the bonus we have earned them this year!!

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#49 RE: : The hour is nigh...
31/08/2009 19:11

exPA to HH (#47)

Is that why when you look at any Pa'ers Linkedin profile their only contacts are other PA people?

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#50 RE: : The hour is nigh...
31/08/2009 19:52

Rpt to exPA (#49)

Unlike ACN, Deloitte, PwC, etc.

Yawn.

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#51 RE: : The hour is nigh...
31/08/2009 20:06

exPA to HH (#47)

Is that why when you look at any Pa'ers Linkedin profile their only contacts are other PA people?

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#52 RE: : The hour is nigh...
02/09/2009 08:49

POC man to exPA (#51)

That's sooo not true. I'm linked to my mum and the guy with one eye at the Esso station

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