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Deloitte vs Capgemini

 
#1 Deloitte vs Capgemini
28/04/2008 23:19

John

Hi,

I'm finishing my studies in June and I've got 2 contract propositions. One at Deloitte and one at Capgemini. In both Deloitte and Capgemini I will start working as a Supply Chain Consultant. I don't know which one to choose. In a few years I'd like to work at ONIDO (United Nations Industrial Development Organisation). Where will I have the best salary opportunities and which one is the best for a future work at UNIDO? Any advices?

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#2 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 08:18

------ to John (#1)

What useful outputs does the UN produce?

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#3 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 08:19

------ to ------ (#2)

Incidentally, for the 10,000,000,000,000th time on this board, it's "advice", not "advices".

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#4 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 10:02

------- to ------ (#3)

John - I just wanted to say sorry for the harsh comment above. Was in a bit of a stressed out/bad mood this morning. Sorry.

And re: your original question, I would definitely go for Deloitte as it has a better reputation and does more strategy/non-IT work than CG.

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#5 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 13:43

Anon to John (#1)

The advice given on this forum is always really good and there is clearly a lot of people on here who know what they are talking about but is it really necessary to correct everyone's grammar and spelling, especially when it is entirely possible that the person you are correcting may be foreign.

(I'm English, so feel free to correct mine)

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#6 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 13:57

---- to Anon (#5)

You should have written "there ARE clearly a lot of people on here".

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#7 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 14:35

zoinks to ---- (#6)

actually he was correct with "there clearly is" because he referred to one lot, not multiple lots. Had he said "lots of people" then are would have been the correct grammar

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#8 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 14:43

watcher to zoinks (#7)

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Yet to see you offer any advice, as opposed to random comments and questions.

Are you the new hmmm? Or the old one under a new banner?

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#9 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 15:21

------- to watcher (#8)

To zoiks - c'mon, in English we say ""there ARE clearly a lot of people on here" rather than ""there IS clearly a lot of people on here". We both know that he meant "a lot" as in "many" rather than "a lot" as in "a package".

To watcher - Fair comment, I agree I haven't been particularly helpful so please accept my apologies. I've been having a bad time lately and guess I've been using this forum to vent my frustrations somewhat. I'll keep it under check from now on.

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#10 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 17:04

zoinks to ------- (#9)

-------,

I know, I'd actually say are in that situation as well. Maybe I decided to correct you out of boredom!

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#11 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
29/04/2008 20:11

Why to zoinks (#10)

-------

how about doing something constructive to counter your "bad time" rather than posting inane comments on this forum?

Also why should other posters / readers of this forum suffer for your "bad day"?

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#12 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
01/05/2008 14:08

mmoun to Why (#11)

Comparing Deloiette vs CG, they don't have the same corporate culture. Ther is a great difference. The first one is a consulting company but the second one is an IT provider .....

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#13 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
01/05/2008 16:39

Old Timer to mmoun (#12)

I don't think that's fair. We've done some joint projects with Capgemini and the success of their services beyond IT is fast expanding. The Business Consulting side even gets some decent Strategy work.

mmoun was right about one thing however, the culture is very different. Don't ignore that, which did you like best? Also how's the pay compare?

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#14 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
08/05/2008 12:33

Jackie to Old Timer (#13)

I would very much like to know what is Capgemini's culture - any insights????

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#15 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
23/05/2008 21:18

CC to Jackie (#14)

Very down to earth and people oriented.

Accessible VPs actively involved with your development

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#16 Re: Deloitte vs Capgemini
24/05/2008 07:23

LP to CC (#15)

What are the working hours like at CG? I hear its common practice to work long hours?

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#17 RE: Deloitte vs Capgemini
24/05/2008 10:27

waldo to LP (#16)

John,

What exactly do you want to do at UNIDO? Why do you feel working at a consultancy would improve your chances of ending up there?

In my opinion there are 2 or 3 things that UN organizations ask for: international experience (especially in developing countries), some development work and good internal contacts in the organization.

I really do not see how working for CG or Deloitte would help you get into the UN. Why dont you check other consultancies/NGOs that work in international development instead? Check out this link with a brief list of some interesting firms (in my opinion Emerging Markets Group would be a good choice).

Also, many people who work for the UN are insiders, that is, they started working as an intern, made contacts and managed to stay by going to do some field work in a random developing country.

This brings me to another question: Why UNIDO? Have you checked out the ILO and the UNDP? Theres a big overlap in the work they do and ILO and UNDP tend to take over a lot of stuff that in general would fall on UNIDO. Also, if you need money and are not willing to work as an unpaid intern (very common in the UN), definitely check out the ILO and WHO who normally pay their interns.

Anyhow, in my humble opinion, CG or Deloitte will not help you that much in getting a contract at UNIDO or in fact anywhere at the UN (except if you work at the NGO division from McKinsey but thats another story).

Hope all this rambling helped.

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