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#1 Tips....!
02/10/2003 00:00

Shaz

Hi. Can anyone enlighten me on how best to get into an interview with McKinseys, BCG, BAH etc. I am about to finish an Undergraduate degree in November. What sort of grades do they look for? Do they totally reject one's CV if there are a few bad grades here and there? What sort of extra currivular activities are they looking for? I await your input.Cheers.

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#2 Re: Tips....!
02/10/2003 00:00

Adam Atkinson

A first from Oxbridge, or, at a stretch, Imperial, LSE, UCL. Flawless GCSEs and A levels. Outstanding extra-curricular activity. The intention to go to Insead, LBS, Harvard, Stanford or Wharton for an MBA within 3-5 years. If you haven't got those,no matter how good you are, then they won't be interested as consistent excellence of their consultants is a key sell to the client.

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#3 Re: Tips....!
03/10/2003 00:00

S

Yea, I suppose the top firms do look for this sort of criteria. However, is that to say that they don't take anyone who doesn't offer such high credentials? Why are they so particular on GCSE's and A-Levels? Soem of the most dynamic people may nt always get the top grades....after all they choose to do other things as well.

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#4 Re: Tips....!
03/10/2003 00:00

Paul

You don't need a first, a 2.1 from Oxbridge (or Imperial, LSE etc) with a very strong extra-curriculum record plus a well written covering letter explaining why you would fit with McKinsey etc and strong CV should be enough. As to grades, you would need an almost flawless academic record - at my old consultancy we looked at AAB minimum but I can't think of anyone we took recently who hasn't got straight As.

However, everyone's allowed to make one mistake - (e.g. a B at A-level, a 2.2 in your second year etc) - as long as the rest of your CV is strong enough.

If you don't have the grades, try somewhere else - McKinsey, Bain etc isn't the end-all, be-all - you will probably have a more fulfilling life with much better people somewhere else...!

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#5 Re: Tips....!
03/10/2003 00:00

Paul (again)

Hi S,

The trouble is, the best strategy firms may get 1,000 applicants for every 2 places: 70% of those are likely to be from Oxbridge; 70% are likely to have got straight As. From those applicants, you look at the extra-curriculum (that extra spark) and there's so many people who have run national charities, climbed Everest, been made Young Person of the Year etc.

As you can't interview everyone, you do have to reject people without interview - e.g. I would happily reject without interview a person predicted a solid 2.1 from Oxbridge, who has been Welfare Officer on the JCR committee and got 3As and a B from Westminister School, unless they had done something on their own initiative that was amazing.

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#6 Re: Tips....!
03/10/2003 00:00

Shaz

Hi Paul. Your cooments are quite insightful. I'm about to graduate from of a university in New Zealand. While my uni is great, I know its nowhere near LSE, Oxbridge etc. Will this totally negate my chances with the big Mgmt firms? What abt if I do a Masters degree from a top US/UK uni? Will i be eligible then, despite my undergrad from an average uni? Also, what if my A-Levels haven't been so great? That apart, what do u feel are the criteria used by the other Consulting firms - Accenture, CGEY, Delloites, LEK, etc? Are they as pedantic?

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#7 Re: Tips....!
03/10/2003 00:00

Paul

That's funny, I'm working in Auckland at the moment. Are you looking to join a consultancy in London or Auckland / Sydney?

I would advise you to have a look at the recruitment websites of the consultancies that you're interested in - the profiles etc will give you an idea of who they're looking for. In NZ / Oz, the university system seems more flat so you'll be on a more level playing field. In your favour, the UK employers will not know very much about unis in NZ and will probably give you the benefit of the doubt. Your CV will still have to be very strong.

You could try the non-strategic consultancies (e.g. Accenture etc) - IT, process, change etc may be more flexible. If you are looking to join an Auckland-based consultancy, I would say the the PWCs of the world are pretty useful starting blocks if you're looking to move abroad in a few years. Also, strategy work in NZ is difficult as there are so few companies who can afford to pay McKinseys etc - also the work is likely to be all NZ-based.

Hope this helps

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#8 Re: Tips....!
04/10/2003 00:00

Shaz

Hi Paul. Yes, it is interesting that you are working in Auckland right now. Do u think u could spare half an hour or so, and we can meet up. I realy want to meet someone who works in the cnsulting line and get some views. My phone no is 021 367 077. I will understand if you are busy or otherwise unable to meet. Cheers.

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#9 Re: Tips....!
06/10/2003 00:00

Girish

Hi Paul

I went through the conversation you had with shaz, its really informative and directional

Kindly consult me too on the same topic ( entry into a consultancy firm

I am an mechanical engineer with 4 years of work experience in one of the largest manufacturing industry ( TATA MOTORS) of india . At present I am pursuing my MBA in finance in one of the university in india ( ICFAI , hyderabad).

i will be very greatful to you for the advice .

Awaiting your reply.

take care and god bless

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