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Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?

 
#1 Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
15/12/2007 13:31

wealthy.industrialist

When I was in B-school, no one who got an offer from both M and BB chose BB. And I think the same is true for the general population. This means that there is a distinct tier difference between M and BB. Then why does everyone group the three together? Could it be a conspiracy by the BB group to gain by association? May I propose that only M is Tier I. I anticipate howls of protest - by the self-styled BB elites. I also expect to hear protests from exceptions to this Mover BB rule - I suggest that these are exceptions which prove the rule.

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#2 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
15/12/2007 18:19

Philanthropist.Waterfall.Grotto to wealthy.industrialist (#1)

Who cares.

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#3 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
15/12/2007 20:14

Diz to deleted (#0)

Not only do I have 2 friends who both chose BCG and Bain respectively with offers in hand from Mck (grad level positions) , I would also like to echo the previous poster - seriously, who cares!

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#4 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
15/12/2007 21:27

ave to Diz (#3)

I got offers from all three but rejected them all for a position with Austrian gay tv

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#5 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
15/12/2007 22:22

anon to ave (#4)

This is getting beyond a joke

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#6 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
16/12/2007 11:26

Graf Schrattenbach to wealthy.industrialist (#1)

BCG actually has a better reputation than McK in Germany, for example, but really, who cares?

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#7 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
16/12/2007 18:35

ZB to Graf Schrattenbach (#6)

Mck is a more strategy-orientated firm with particular emphasis on strategic organisational change and corporate decision-making, whilst Bain is involved more at the operational level working on issues like business process optimisation and process control and operational efficiency planning and implementation.

both models have pros and cons, but for a longevity and effectiveness perspective, Mck has the edge as it develop more comercially implementable and optimised business solutions

ZB

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#8 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
16/12/2007 21:51

d to ZB (#7)

Thanks ZB.

Fantastic insight - you have a lot to offer. Please expand on those points at length.

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#9 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
17/12/2007 18:09

anon to d (#8)

what a gay thread!

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#10 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
27/12/2007 10:42

anon to anon (#9)

ZB, there are indeed differences between the different consultancies mentioned, but not the one you mentioned.

Bain does more due dilligence than McKinsey, but if anything less operational work - and also McKinsey UK gets over 50% of its revenue from public service work, whereas Bain sticks to companies.

If you're going to make authoritative sounding posts, please try to be accurate.

BCG is the most rigorous and thorough, McKinsey undoubtedly has the highest global profile (and is the largest), Bain are leaders in PE and win best places to work awards.

Take your pick really - though most people do tend to lean towards one or the other slightly in terms of their personality.

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#11 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
27/12/2007 13:27

watcher to anon (#10)

tony top-consultant team

Can you look into registration for this forum. ZB is a particular issue here as he keep posting down right lies in a way that some inexperienced readers on here believe

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#12 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
27/12/2007 14:46

Anon-a-gain to wealthy.industrialist (#1)

Does Booz play no part in this so called "conspiracy"? I thought the abbreviation was MBBB not MBB.

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#13 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
27/12/2007 16:20

DDB to Anon-a-gain (#12)

no, originally, its MBB

- though sometimes it is expanded to MBB+B, but I never heard (@work) the term MBBB

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#14 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
27/12/2007 20:25

anon to DDB (#13)

Booz did used to be a market leader approaching McK in the 1980s and 1990s, but since then have gone down value and now focus mainly on US govt work, apparently (and I only have heard from word of mouth) closer to Deloitte style price points than MBB/the other strategy firms/boutiques.

Booz do still have a European presence and pop up from time to time, but I would suspect their non-US revenues to be quite a bit smaller. Again - this might be incomplete.. Has anyone had direct experiences of them?

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#15 RE: Is the MBB phenomenon a conspiracy by the BB crowd?
31/12/2007 11:02

MBB to anon (#14)

McK do a decent amount of public sector work, but it is no way more than 50% in the UK. This is the sort of thing Bain-ees tend to say to show that they are 'really' the best consulting firm in London. As though there is such a thing as the 'best' consulting firm.

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