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Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?

 
#1 Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 00:46

Wood

Perhaps I don't exactly expect someone to give me a yes or no answer to the first question, but any advice or comments are welcome.

I've been interested and in fact pretty dedicated to the option of consulting since I started my degree now. I'm studying Business Computing and IT and Aston Business School, and I would like to start my placement year (July 2008) at a management or technology consulting firm.

Frankly though, I'm not sure I'll be 'good enough'. I got AAB equivelant at A-Level. 2 A's are from BTEC National Certificate in e-Business however, do you think employers will overlook this and disregard it as two A's?

Uni grades are acceptable - an average of 2:1 in first year, not really what I wanted but it will do.

I'm genuinely fascinated by IT and Business and so I really would like to progress into a career in technology consulting, but I'm not sure I will have the extra curricular stuff to back it up... I've got IT (and IT solutions for business) retail experience, I've worked self-employed as web designer/developer, and photographer, and I've travelled a lot.

I really would love the Accenture work placement, as well as PA and various other consulting firms. Accenture especially seems a fantastic opportunity, but I'm not sure I'm going to have the quality application needed...what are you thoughts?

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#2 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 07:28

anon to Wood (#1)

<i> 2 A's are from BTEC National Certificate in e-Business however, do you think employers will overlook this and disregard it as two A's? </i>

Yes

<i> I really would love the Accenture work placement, as well as PA and various other consulting firms. Accenture especially seems a fantastic opportunity, but I'm not sure I'm going to have the quality application needed...what are you thoughts? </i>

Accenture IT "consultants" don't tend to be roclet scientist calibre. The fact you have any work experience at all will make you stand out.

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#3 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 09:08

Mars A Day to Wood (#1)

Wood given your academics you are going to have to work hard to secure a placement against some stiff competition (literally as it happens if it gets any colder... brrrr!!).

You need to develop some confidence to overcome these barriers - if you can present yourself as great raw material and show real energy and enthusiasm you could make it through the filter by someone deciding to give you a change to prove yourself.

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#4 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 09:13

acn to Mars A Day (#3)

I applied for a placement and, after interview, didn't get it. I then applied a couple of years later for a grad position.

I asked a recruiter whether failing to get the placement would harm my chances of the grad job. I was told that it's much more competitive to get a placement and I did well to get an interview.

It may have been ego-stroking, but I got the grad job, and found that the lessons I had learned through the placement interview made the grad job interview so much easier.

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#5 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 09:49

anon to acn (#4)

Yes, this is true. At ACN it is much more difficult to get an internship than a grad job. About 1/100 applicants get an internship.

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#6 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 11:15

Mars to Wood (#1)

Another point worth considering Wood is that at grad/entry level consultancies are not looking for people with consulting experience - in fact a placement or internship in any respectable blue chip would be beneficial to you, whether it be in industry, banking etc. They are looking for raw potential at grad level, not ready made consultants. Look more widely and try to get an internship in a bank, or a FTSE100 company (which are often larger organisations with more places open) and you'll be fine.

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#7 Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 14:15

Wood to Mars (#6)

Thanks very much for the motivating replies.

Really has helped.

Just got off the phone from Fujitsu, I have a telephone interview with them Monday - so that's a start. Will look into alternative placements, aside from consulting, now.:-) Cheers

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#8 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 15:13

Wood to Wood (#7)

Also - I'm interested in changing my degree programme from Business Computing and IT, to Management and Strategy - what do you think?

Cheers

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#9 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 15:51

Mars A Day to Wood (#8)

Unless you need a specifc degree for a vocation e.g. medicine or law, no one really cares too much what your degree is in these days as long as you can get a 2:1 or 1st in it so there is little point in bothering to change your degree subject.

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#10 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
14/12/2007 15:55

anon to Mars A Day (#9)

arguably it is more important which university you attend, rather than which degree you study for

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#11 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
17/12/2007 09:50

Mars A Day to anon (#10)

Depending on which firm you are applying for yes university can make a big difference as some have a list of accepted universities, and if your university is not on that list forget it. MBB operate such lists.

But Wood be realistic and save yourself time and heartache. That BTEC has ruled you out of MC grad entry - go get some experience in industry and you might be able to move across at a later stage in your career as an experienced hire/expert hire in a niche area.

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#12 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
20/12/2007 23:44

Wood to Mars A Day (#11)

What I can't understand though, is that I have the required amount of UCAS points for most of the grad/internship entries, I have 340 points overall and I'm studying my subject at a University that is good for this subject area... hm, I guess this internship search into the new year will be an enlightening experience.

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#13 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
03/01/2008 16:39

Wood to Wood (#12)

Hey,

I've got a telephone interview with LogicaCMG. Do you think this sort of placement opportunity would be less valuable than a FTSE100 company that don't provide consulting services?

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#14 RE: Is consulting for me? How can I stand our for placement opportunities?
09/01/2008 21:47

ano to Wood (#12)

Mate, these guys don't really know what they're talking about. Your BTEC will be perfectly acceptable for most placements. And as for not being able to get into MC because of it, that's a load of Bulls**t! Excuse my French. Good Luck finding something.

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