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PRINCE2 training

 
#1 PRINCE2 training
26/08/2007 12:58

Project manager

How many people on here are PRINCE2 qualified?

How would you reccomend studying for it? Would you reccomend any particular training company for individuals to study with? Do any run weekend training courses?

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#2 RE: PRINCE2 training
26/08/2007 13:57

Phil to Project manager (#1)

I'm a PRINCE2 practitioner. It is helpful for public sector clients who want their projects run using PRINCE2.

Usually, the Project Manager would need to be a PRINCE2 Practitioner, and it would be enough for team member to "have an awareness of PRINCE2" or to have a PRINCE2 Foundation certificate (the multi-choice exam).

If you want to be a project manager on public sector clients, PRINCE2 Practitioner is one of the keys that unlocks the door during the selection process.

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#3 RE: PRINCE2 training
27/08/2007 14:38

Bothered to Project manager (#1)

www.ogc.gov.uk will give you lowdown and contacts. Two exams, a multiple choice, and a 3 hr written job. I believe one week residential courses are available with the Foudation exam late in the week and the Practitioner at the end. Not the most taxing examination and certain employers ,public and private will insist on consultants having it.

I must also say tho' that dry is not the word for this course. It could have soaked up the recent flooding in Oxfordshire. If you've got common sense you will pass.

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#4 RE: PRINCE2 training
27/08/2007 16:29

Phil to Bothered (#3)

APM Group administer PRINCE2 on behalf of the OGC. The list all of the accreditred training organisations is at:

http://www.prince2.org.uk/TrainingOrganisations/ATOs/ATOListing.asp

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#5 RE: PRINCE2 training
30/08/2007 22:57

PM to Phil (#4)

It's also available as distance learning, ie a CD version you could do on the train, and just turn up for a little revision and the exams, which are not difficult albeit the subject matter is v tedious

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#6 RE: PRINCE2 training
31/08/2007 09:22

anon to PM (#5)

costs a fortune though and you have to keep "renewing" your qualification every couple of years I think, what a con

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#7 RE: PRINCE2 training
31/08/2007 09:44

PC11 to anon (#6)

Hi,

Whether Prince2 certification is helped me in my project or not, it certainly helped me to get the interview calls easily when I have decided to put me in the market. More and more employers expecting that PM's should have some kind of awareness or qualification in one of the PM methodology (PRINCE2 or PMI). As stated in the earlier thread, it doesn't cost you a fortune. You can buy a book called "Managing Successful Projects with PRINCE2"(costs around £65) and study by yourself and sit in for the examination(http://www.prince2.org.uk). Why the hell you want the training if you are already managing the projects?you can read the book and learn by yourself.(atleast for the foundation examination, you do not require any training at all even for a beginner)

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#8 RE: PRINCE2 training
31/08/2007 09:48

anon to PC11 (#7)

£65 for the book is one thing...

what about the hundreds and hundreds you have to spend on 2 sets of exams, once of which you have to keep re-taking (and paying for) every few years if I understand it correctly?

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#9 RE: PRINCE2 training
31/08/2007 11:39

Paneer to anon (#8)

I am no apologist for PRINCE2 - it's verbose and over-written in some areas and sparse in others where you could do with some padding.

The whole argument seems to me very similar to when I was at school arguing about "O" level maths - why do I need to learn about quadratic equations when I just want to be able to count my change in the pub? Some employers regard a P2 qualification as short hand for something they're looking for.

I, personally, doubt that this is true but I have taken the exams and have the certs.

To clear up the qualification / requalification debate:

The Foundation Exam consists of 75 multiple choice questions and is considered to display a basic understanding of the method. This never runs out.

Passing the Practitioner exam (3 hour written paper) allows one to become a "Registered" P2 Practitioner and this "registration" lasts for 5 years. Following this, one can still claim to be a P2 Practitioner but not a registered one.

To re-register, there is a written 1 hour exam, which consists of 1 of the questions from that day's Practitioner exam.

From memory, this costs no more than the £150 (+VAT?) charge for the exam, covering invigilator time and marking. Not particularly expensive once every 5 years.

I used www.the-pso.com to re-register as I'd come across them on an assignment. The bloke who runs it (no relation to me!) is Peter Weaver, ex-Army and ex-NHS and he is vg.

P

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#10 RE: PRINCE2 training
31/08/2007 12:04

anon to Paneer (#9)

ok, so to summarise: what's the cheapest I can get the full blown set of P2 qualifications for? I'm prepared to read stuff online and at the library etc but want to keep the cost to the absolute minimum

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#11 RE: PRINCE2 training
31/08/2007 15:26

PM to anon (#10)

*PRINCE2 book from a library (tech?) - nothing

*Self study (CDs from same) - nothing

*Foundation exam <£100 (if you shop around); nothing if you can convince then you don't need it

*Practitioner exam ~£100, from an anonymous 'school' in bedsit land...

Chances of passing ~50%, depending...

Enjoy (the leftover cash)! :))

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#12 RE: PRINCE2 training
23/08/2011 14:42

JayLondon to Project manager (#1)

How many people on here are PRINCE2 qualified?

How would you reccomend studying for it? Would you reccomend any particular training company for individuals to study with? Do any run weekend training courses?

I am PRINCE2 qualified and I did my training through a PRINCE2 CBT course from a company called Knowledge Train. It turned out quite good in that I didn't have to complete in 3 days studying all the time and it is also quite cost effective.

http://www.prince2-online.co.uk

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#13 RE: PRINCE2 training
08/09/2011 13:45

darell_s to JayLondon (#12)

I am PRINCE2 certified. I very recently got certified, from a company called Firebrand. They actually run the weekend course. I was like you, I didn't want to spend too much of time away from office - so it was perfect. 3 days for both Foundation and Practitioner.

Here's there website: http://www.firebrandtraining.com.au/courses/apmg/prince2-foundation-practitioner-certification

Hope it helps! :)

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#14 RE: PRINCE2 training
09/09/2011 13:21

Bob to darell_s (#13)

Its great to see that a key to unlocking the door in the selection process for public sector project management work can be obtained through a few hours of self study from a book.

What a great seal of quality. Chuckle...

It's no wonder so many projects fail, or that management consultants (a.k.a. project managers) have such a bad reputation.

So what is to be done to improve quality and establish robust certifications or other measures of quality?

Bob

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#15 RE: PRINCE2 training
09/09/2011 21:46

Geronimo to JayLondon (#12)

Stop bumping posts from over FOUR years ago. Stick to the present, not the past.

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