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consulting & living in scotland

 
#1 consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 11:29

anon

I'd like to move back to Scotland but stay in consulting. Currently at Acn who i know have offices up there so may look at a transfer but the office is in Edinburgh and i'd like to move to Glasgow.

I heard Deloitte are there. Anyone else i should look at?

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#2 RE: consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 13:04

Taxman to anon (#1)

Glasgow?

Not really, its a thin market there.

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#3 RE: consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 13:46

anon to Taxman (#2)

More for the cost of property the choice was Glasgow over Edinburgh as the latter seems to be catching up with London in places!

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#4 RE: consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 13:57

o to anon (#1)

Why not commute from Glasgow to Edinburgh? You could even live somewhere nice near the station like the Merchant City. Plenty of people do it.

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#5 RE: consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 14:18

anon to o (#4)

That is a good option i had considered. Are there many consulting jobs that are Edinburgh based though? i.e. I don't mind doing out of town mon-thur but in an ideal world would like Edinburgh based clients.

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#6 RE: consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 14:28

Sean to anon (#5)

The Accn office in Edinburgh is relatively new and I believe they are working out how best to utilise this office so not sure how successful you'd be putting in a transfer. Also the Edinburgh office is purely financial consulting.

Deloitte have a strong presence in Edinburgh and Glasgow I believe. They are currently advertising on the website for experienced hires up in Scotland.

You seem to be unrealistic in your needs. The reality of consulting is you may be based in Glasgow but that's all -you still can be based UK wide so I'd say client location is unpredictable and out of your control.

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#7 RE: consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 14:30

abc to Sean (#6)

Capgemini are also based in Edinburgh and Glasgow. The Edinburgh office is pretty small though. Not sure about the Glasgow one.

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#8 RE: consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 15:08

Not a Consultant to abc (#7)

The only person I know who works for accenture in the Edinburgh office has been based in London for about the last 18 months…

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#9 RE: consulting & living in scotland
07/08/2007 21:21

bri500 to Not a Consultant (#8)

PA have c. 25 consultants out of there

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#10 RE: consulting & living in scotland
08/08/2007 11:19

ex-Cap in Scotland to abc (#7)

If you want to be based in Scotland be prepared to get on the shuttle to London first thing every Monday morning

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#11 RE: consulting & living in scotland
08/08/2007 11:27

anon to ex-Cap in Scotland (#10)

That wouldnt really bother me. The only reason i want to move back is for property. As i said i'd 'like' to work in Scotland too but can't have it all.

Does the red-eye flight thing wear you down after a while?

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#12 RE: consulting & living in scotland
08/08/2007 13:20

Taxman to anon (#11)

I travel to London a lot from Glasgow and Edinburgh.

To airport (either one) 30 minuts

Lounge (free papers) 30 minutes

Fly to heathrow (BMI toastie) 50 minutes

Underground 1 hour

So not a big issue.

Property prices:

4 Bedroom new build detached home with detached garage £180k

Mortgage payment (repayment) £800 pcm

Language heard in busses trains : English

langauge spoken in shops : English

Most labourers speak : English

Number of terror attacks in last 20 years : 1 (But we beat him up for trying)

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#13 RE: consulting & living in scotland
08/08/2007 13:23

Bothered to anon (#11)

Glasgow any day over Edinburgh. The latter is such a dreary, pretentious hole of a place.(Rubbish footy teams too) Popualtion is about 350k and the Morningside twang will eventually do your head in. The commute is not too bad between the two tho' As for the shuttle to London each Monday as one post suggested perhaps you ought to go for a company with 21 century communication systems...they're all the rage you know !!

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#14 RE: consulting & living in scotland
08/08/2007 13:41

anon to Bothered (#13)

Good stuff taxman, sounds ideal. Work in London but the company pick up the tab, go home to nice pad at the weekend which doesn't require 5xsalary mortgage.

Glasgow would be first choice. So much cheaper than Edinburgh.

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#15 RE: consulting & living in scotland
08/08/2007 15:35

archie to anon (#14)

GENESIS CONSULTING is based in Glasgow. Strategic consultancy comprising former PA Consulting and Andersen Business Consulting execs. 10-15 based there now.

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#16 RE: consulting & living in scotland
20/08/2007 11:08

anon to archie (#15)

Edinburgh is a professional city, with better paying jobs and a higher class of people. If you want to do consulting in Scotland, Edinburgh is the natural choice. Glasgow is getting big for operations, call centres and outsourced operations. If you want to be on the shop floor choose Glasgow. Come on people, this is a serious forum. Anyone who thinks Glasgow has better high level job opps is off their head.

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#17 RE: consulting & living in scotland
20/08/2007 11:14

anon to anon (#16)

Choice of living in Glasgow is purely a financial one. Edinburgh is far more expensive than it but it is a nicer place.

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#18 RE: consulting & living in scotland
20/08/2007 14:22

Edinburghlad to anon (#17)

Having lived in Both Glasgow (3yrs) and Edinburgh (22yrs) I am familar with both.

You say Edinburgh is too expensive to live in and would prefer Glasgow. Edinburgh is expensive if you choose to live near the city. There are many nice and inexpensive places to live outwith the city such as Balerno, Corstorphine, Colinton, even Livingston all no more than a 30min drive from the centre and you'd be suprised at what you can get for your money (e.g 2 bedroom flat 130/140K in Livingston). Th public transport is very good too so you can't use cost of living as a justification for not choosing Edinburgh beacuse it is just as afforbadle as Glasogw. You just need to know where to look and not want to live in the centre!

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#19 RE: consulting & living in scotland
21/08/2007 14:19

Bothered to anon (#16)

Edinburgh is a professional city, with better paying jobs and a higher class of people. If you want to do consulting in Scotland, Edinburgh is the natural choice.......that'll include the scuzzy areas too then? Trainspotting?

While the Burgh is pretty in the centre with a castle etc other parts leave a lot to be desired. It has a population of only about 350k and the Financial/Consulting Mkts are very insular and with all due respects to some very good operators I have come across many absolute ships anchors....per head of population it outranked both the City and Glasgow.

Edinburghlad is right to point out that you can get some good housing about 30mins outside of the city centre (Livingston etc) but in all honesty Edinburghlad have you actually visited these newish towns? They're not quite Morningside are they?

I'd still go for Glasgow (3rd largest city in the UK) and rub shoulders with the great unwashed from the "shop floor". Downside to Glasgow is the sheer lack of pretention to which anon is obviously running a long position in.

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#20 RE: consulting & living in scotland
21/08/2007 15:19

EdinburghLad to Bothered (#19)

"Edinburghlad is right to point out that you can get some good housing about 30mins outside of the city centre (Livingston etc) but in all honesty Edinburghlad have you actually visited these newish towns? They're not quite Morningside are they?"

You sound like a bit of a stuck up snob to be honest!!! There are many attractive and great places to live on the outide of the city centre. I wouldn't include morningside as a great place to live!! You obv haven't a clue about Edinburgh and no idea what you're talking about. You're just a stuck up snob!!!

Living in Edinburgh is affordable, attractive and the size is the beauty that you can get from one side to the other in about 40 mins. Sure it has bad areas but every city does. but don't be so judfmental unless you know what you're tlking about!!

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#21 RE: consulting & living in scotland
22/08/2007 15:58

Bothered to EdinburghLad (#20)

That's me told. Thanking you kindly EdinburghLad, I never been called a stuck up snob before. Wegies never really aspire to that. I have both worked and studied in Edin so I do have a bit of a scooby what I'm on about. I also have friends who live in Livingston. Bo'ness, Armadale,Grangemouth, Polmont etc and to be fair none of them are particularly bonny.

I'd hardly call the Burgh "affordable" unless you are minted like me.

I wasn't actually having a go at you, more the anon geez 3 posts above mine.

Apologies if I came over a bit snobby wee man but I do actually think I know what I'm talking about and I don't really think I was being judgemental at all.

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#22 RE: consulting & living in scotland
22/08/2007 21:54

look we all know to Bothered (#21)

that scotland stinks and thats why half of them are here in london. they are doling out huge incentives to foreign students / professionals so that it doesnt become a ghost town. One of my welsh friends used to say, the best sight in wales is the bridge into london, and i guess faster trains from scotland to london will render this debate useless anyways in the future. lets be real and get on with things - and for goodness sake lose some of that scottish pride - its sounding really hollow these days.

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#23 RE: consulting & living in scotland
23/08/2007 20:39

ha ha to look we all know (#22)

Look at the tool above, yup we Scottish consultants are pishing ourselves that we live in the same house as you and it cost half as much, our kids go to a better school with a better education system (choose 3 A-levels to define your future at 16 ha ha ha ha ha!) and if we need to go to the smogpit that is London we do so on expenses so no commute and a nice hotel to cosy ourselves up in.

If our national pride makes you feel uncomfortable, our economics should make you positively shiver in your 1-bed 80m2 flat.

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#24 RE: consulting & living in scotland
23/08/2007 22:18

look we all know to ha ha (#23)

economics and scotland - thats such a funny joke. things must be really really rosy up there for half of you to be living in the scrummy smogpit called london. in general to progress its good to park that silly pride and ego at the door as the indians and chinese do

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#25 RE: consulting & living in scotland
24/08/2007 14:00

Bletherer to look we all know (#24)

Your mum !

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#26 RE: consulting & living in scotland
24/08/2007 14:07

anon to Bletherer (#25)

If I were to give you a crusty fiver and chuck in a deep-fried lump of lard, will you go away?

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#27 RE: consulting & living in scotland
24/08/2007 14:34

ha ha to anon (#26)

I agree the Scottish economy isn't up to much, I was laughing that we llive in a nicer country where 5 people don't want to share the same square metre as us at any given point in time and we get paid as much as you do. If you think we're "all down in London" you should walk through Edinburgh on a Saturday afternoon - "you" are all up here.

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#28 RE: consulting & living in scotland
24/08/2007 15:00

edinburghlad to ha ha (#27)

Is this not a forum for professionals? Read back to what has been written, sounds like a school playground – “I’m better cos my daddy is bigger than yours” For goodness sake, stop winding each other and biting at the bait! You might have the view x is better than y, and if so then put forward a constructive comment not a playground argument!

As to my post where I referred to the poster as being snobbish cos he didn’t think the outskirts of Edinburgh were “Morningside standard”. I still stand by my comments. Think before you speak, otherwise makes you look rather shallow and stuck up.

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#29 RE: consulting & living in scotland
24/08/2007 15:19

dave to edinburghlad (#28)

your mum on toast

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#30 RE: consulting & living in scotland
27/08/2007 15:00

Bothered to edinburghlad (#28)

Oh edinburghlad you have hurt and disheartened me, just when I thought we were virtually bonding.

As for your school playground malarky that's just excatly what you have perpetuated you clown! "As to my post where I referred to the poster as being snobbish cos he didn’t think the outskirts of Edinburgh were “Morningside standard”. I still stand by my comments. Think before you speak, otherwise makes you look rather shallow and stuck up. "

I admire a man who stands by his earlier comments then writes contradictory b0ll0cks!

Oh I am soooooooooo shallow, I think I'll have to buy a mine, there's some mothballed ones on the outskirts of Edinburgh I think!

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#31 RE: consulting & living in scotland
28/08/2007 00:20

Anon to Sean (#6)

Accenture currently launching a major initiative in Scotland. Worth asking around.

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#32 RE: consulting & living in scotland
28/08/2007 22:45

Taxman to Anon (#31)

Is that for National Australia Bank by any chance, so they can pretend they have staff?

Should be entertaining, as NAG prefer 'In' Sourcing and accenture are proposing a load of poorly spoken offshore twunts as is their preferred method.

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#33 RE: consulting & living in scotland
29/08/2007 00:28

Clarification to Taxman (#32)

Taxman - when you say "load of poorly spoken offshore twunts" - are you referring to Accenture staff in scotland? or what?

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#34 RE: consulting & living in scotland
29/08/2007 12:51

Taxman to Clarification (#33)

Scotland Offshore nope!

More the Accenture strategy which the new NAg (Ex Accenture) person has not told the bank about yet, one of those 'well tell em later' approaches.

Should blow up real nicve, and real soon... I dont get paid this type of money just to do nothing y'know :)

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#35 RE: consulting & living in scotland
31/07/2013 10:14

Rachel_Harvey to anon (#1)

Hi guys, I've joined a few years out of date on this...(!) but have you considered PA Consulting Group?

PA Consulting is growing in Scotland currently - particularly the Financial Services Practice - it's a great comprimise between large corporate and still having that entrepreneurial feel. They're holding a careers event on August 29th 2013 in Edinburgh - follow this link to register:

http://lnkd.in/yW_S4a

Hope that helps!

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#36 RE: consulting & living in scotland
11/08/2013 22:41

MC_Hamma to anon (#1)

Hi, I'm also with Accenture. Attached to Edin office. Depending upon which DTE you belong to, and your interests/ aspirations, it's likely that you will have to travel at least some of the time. I've been about 50% Scotland (Edinburgh/ Perth/ Glasgow) and 50% down South since joining. It's not so bad, commuting each Monday morning and returning on Thursday evenings. And, there are periods where there is a lot of work on in Scotland so you can switch from one project straight onto the next. The Edinburgh - Glasgow daily commute is a piece of cake so long as it's city centre to city centre. It's not even an hour apart so why not go for it. You can only ask the question to senior mgmt, and if there is sufficient demand for your skillset in Scotland then the business case should be there to support the transfer. Good luck.

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#37 RE: consulting & living in scotland
12/08/2013 05:53

abc123 to Rachel_Harvey (#35)

Thanks PA Consulting for reviving a 6 year old thread.

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