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Spoonfeeding

 
#1 Spoonfeeding
08/05/2003 00:00

CG

Am I the only one who is amazed that people who are hoping for careers in consultancy, where clients are spending £000s to get you to do things they can't do themselves, are asking for advice on what to do if & how to answer interview questions - even if that got you through an interview you wouldn't last long in the real world. USe some common sense, show some initiative - you've all got internet access (or else you wouldn't be reading this) so use it.

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#2 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
08/05/2003 00:00

Dave Mustain

Yep, CG, how true you are, Consultants by their very nature should endear all the qualities of a Business SuperHero... however, these graduates are propelled by the thoughts of stardom without real braincell rubbing.

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#3 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
10/05/2003 00:00

robert

i agree totally - whingeing people " how do i get a job in consultancy?????" Use your brain and the ne! Its all so phony - people dont really want answers to their "problem" they just want to show off that they might have an interview. Cynical? Yes.

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#4 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
11/05/2003 00:00

Rudolph

Actually I would disagree. Consultants work within close knit teams, tackling client problems not as individuals, but as a single entity. The manager cannot effectuate an implementation without his analysts and the partner cannot direct the company without the support of his managers. Graduates are not supposed to be "business superheros". They should have the right qualities, those of initiative and dedication. Surely then, using an interactive forum to ask their questions is using their initiative? (By your logic Accenture's global knowledge sharing intranet resource defies your definition of a consultant.) Consultancy tends to be such a narrow career choice whilst at university that I would suspect many of them have never been in contact with a professional consultant. Why then should they be scorned for using this website - the section entitled "career advice" I may remind you, to give them the best chance of suceeding. I put it to you that you are simply jealous, brought on by the fact that consultancy has disillusioned you. Perhaps you feel that as you have had such a rough ride getting into consultancy, that these graduates deserve the same? That's a shame...

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#5 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
11/05/2003 00:00

Partner

Rudolph, what you described we can read in any Waterstone's bookstore, you are obvious. My guess is that you're about 26 years of age (or less) with very little "real" life experience (bar the 2 yrs at a firm). Knowledge is a continually evolving state. Have you seen the Accenture intranet? Have you really? Then you will know that the amount of outdated, bulky deposits of useless info, serves only to provide have baked answers to the current problems if not slowing half your day down. Best Practice knowledge sharing ? Tell me what you know and I'll see if you're right. We have a deal? I put it to you!; your tenant was based/implied on the assumption of average talented teams and that there is no place for the "Smart Cookies" who lead by instinct at point level. Read Leadership, why/when teams work, articles and Read Organisational Structure (Flat vs Bureaucratic) ; You are proscribing the opposite to the seeds of innovation.

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#6 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
12/05/2003 00:00

h

Dear Partner. On the internet, no one knows that I'm a dog... ...

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#7 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
12/05/2003 00:00

Reg

Well, I wouldn't employ any of you negative ****s on this thread... if you've never had to ask for advice at any time, then you have no place in the "real" world (as one of you put it) you belong in academia, not business.

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#8 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
12/05/2003 00:00

Partner

h, if you are a Dog, I wouldn't harp on about it. Try being a Cat, they always land on their feet... :)

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#9 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
15/05/2003 00:00

JC

h, weren't you in Steps

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#10 Re: Reply to "Partner"
16/05/2003 00:00

Rudolph

Dear Partner. Thank-you for your interesting reply. Here is mine: You seem soured by my response. Maybe you can read similar "tenants" in Waterstones, obviously you've been passing your Saturdays productively. Full marks on my age, I AM less than 26 years of age. 21 to be more accurate. My reply was aimed at Dave Mustain's post. Therefore the subject is graduates. Yes, you maybe 30 something, disillusioned at Accentures knowledge resource (which I haven't seen, but of which I was making an educated guess at the content), but I care not of that! Solo business gurus are all fine and well at your stage, but at the lower echelons even your "Smart Cookies" need to bond with their project team. Why else do firms employ the group excecise tactics? I can't imagine any graduate succeeding with your "I'm alright Jack, solo-minded mentality" - but then again maybe that was your intention? I never proscribed flat, borish placidity, I never promoted bland submissiveness to the mentality of the "team". Instead I implied a broader, almost "friendlier" approach, i.e. people like YOU helping people like ME break into a career that is alien to us. You ask me to provide you with my evidence of Best Practice Knowledge Sharing. OK - why then, as someone who clearly defies this "tenant" do you surf a consultancy website and reply (possibly post) messages on a forum entitled "Career Advice". Are you there to benefit or dispense this career advice? You seem to be doing neither.

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#11 Re: Wooden Spoon-feeding
17/05/2003 00:00

California Joe

The Gold Rush is over folks.... (the myth is over) ...but propoganda still rules for the naive. There are far more Gold diggers than there are Canyons of Gold !!! [Many a truth spoken in Jest]

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