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EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS

 
#1 EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 12:26

curious

I have got offers from EY BAS (FS PI practice), Detica (FS practice) and PA (FS practice)

My impressions are - Detica, fast growing but more technical work involved even for Business Consultants

PA (FS) - Really good firm but FS is not their strongest sector, great for consultants who want to specialise in Public sector but not FS

EY BAS(FS) - Growing very fast, a bit chaotic but very strong prospects in the FS area - obviously a great brand

I would apprciate any views on this..what would you do?

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#2 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 13:19

Mike to curious (#1)

Detica - I disagree about thje work being too technically focussed. They have just bought Ma-Patners who have over 150 people who are not technically focussed

PA - Definatley the worst of the 3

EY BAS - I would say that they are a good company, but on the whole the projects they are winning are not the most exciting.

My opinion, go with Detica

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#3 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 13:26

JJ to Mike (#2)

I agree with Mikes conclusion (ie Detica FS), but disagree about E&Y - They are winning some good work. I would also add, that the culture at E&Y isn't that great. As for PA - stay clear. They dont have many subject matter experts in the FS area.

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#4 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 13:29

confused by Mike to Mike (#2)

Mike do you work for Detica? They are totally technically focused!

On their website:

"Detica is a business and technology consultancy"

"As a consultant, you will work on a number of different projects, often at the leading edge of technology"

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#5 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 13:34

opinion to confused by Mike (#4)

Steer clear of PA FS at your peril!

I defintly think E&Y is the better of the three in terms of self marketing.

Detica are still establishing themselves as buisness advisors as opposed to implementors.

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#6 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 14:15

Mike to confused by Mike (#4)

Sorry - let me explain. Yes, Detica have a very strong technology background, but they have just bought Ma-P. If you are working in Detica FS UK, you are essentially joining Ma-Partners of old, who were not technology focussed at all.

..and no I dont work for Detica. I work as an independant.

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#7 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 14:31

curious to Mike (#6)

PA's FS focussed team did seem very small and that was one of my concerns.

The FS practice in EY seem to have a very strong leadership team (specifically talking on the BAS side). They admit that Wholesale Banking is weak but I think Insurance and Asset Management is going great guns and Retail Banking is reasonably strong as well.

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#8 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 14:34

curious to JJ (#3)

Hi JJ,

When you say, culture isnt great, do you mean not enough focus on developing people or is it a very aggressive culture?

The people I met were very friendly and relatively open about whats good and whats not

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#9 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 14:40

K to curious (#8)

If you think of Financial Services then you think of the Big 4 - EY is streets ahead of the others in terms of financial services. the other two are good consultancies but I would stick with EY in a financial climate.

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#10 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 16:42

Poodle to K (#9)

The atmosphere in EY isn't good.

Its led by a few ex-IBM and Accenture partners, and they've brought their "pile em high, sell em cheap" culture with them. The work is poor quality, and the people not friendly.

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#11 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
24/04/2007 16:44

Question to Poodle (#10)

How do you know about their atmosphere? Do you work there?

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#12 RE: EY BAS FS vs PA FS vs Detica FS
26/04/2007 17:59

k to Question (#11)

There are no ex-IBM Partners in FS BAS so that's crap. There are 2 in ICG BAS who are pretty nice guys.

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