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50 most prestigious firms

 
#1 50 most prestigious firms
18/12/2006 14:50

Jonny

.... as stated by Vault. Any comments?

1) Mckinsey

2) Boston

3) Bain

4) BAH

5) Monitor

6) Mercer MC

7) MOW

8) Mercer HR

9) Parthenon Group

10) Deloitte Consulting

11) LEK

12) Marakon

13) IBM BCS

14) ATK

15) Accenture

... if you want the rest: http://www.vault.com/nr/consulting_rankings/consulting_rankings.jsp?consulting2007=2&ch_id=252

comments?

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#2 RE: 50 most prestigious firms
18/12/2006 14:52

Potatoe Head to Jonny (#1)

Vault is an American focussed site, so there's no surprises that quality European HQ'd firms aren't listed

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#3 RE: 50 most prestigious firms
18/12/2006 14:57

Random Acts of Language to Jonny (#1)

Define prestigious?

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#4 RE: 50 most prestigious firms
18/12/2006 15:35

pirlo to Random Acts of Language (#3)

Prestige: Social respect accorded to an individual or group because of the status of their position.

I dont think Jonny was trying to open a semantic debate...

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#5 RE: 50 most prestigious firms
18/12/2006 15:46

Random Acts of Language to pirlo (#4)

I've since looked at the survey methodology, although note the point above about Vault being US dominated.

The point I was trying to make is that as a consultant surely we shouldn't be accepting bland statements uncritically, there's a reason that ''random surveys'' aren't allowed to include consultants in ther samples, because we should be capable of tearing the questionaire apart to judge the anticipated reponse required by the survey sponsor.

In this sense does prestigious mean as an employer or as a supplier? Clearly from the research methodology it's looking at presetige as an employer, in that sense I'm sure we could argue around the edges of the sequencing, and the whole issue about employer attractiveness has been done in a few recent threads.

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#6 RE: 50 most prestigious firms
18/12/2006 15:47

JT to pirlo (#4)

These rankings are pointless as only Americans were surveyed and thus negate the views of people around the world. Just look at the number of threads in which people slate Accenture and IBM BCS. Mercer HR #8!??? What about Roland Berger and Mars & Co?

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#7 RE: 50 most prestigious firms
18/12/2006 15:50

acc.applicant to pirlo (#4)

My thoughts are that if you join a firm who's name begins wiith an M or a B you're probably onto a winner, looking at that list.

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#8 RE: 50 most prestigious firms
18/12/2006 16:54

DG to acc.applicant (#7)

While these surveys do have some uses I agree with Random Acts. Prestige is inevitably a subjective concept.

For instance (one for the bloopers) during my interview with Marakon my interviewer mentioned a possible plan of his was to move into industry in a couple of years. I (rather foolishly) questioned how recognisable the Marakon name really was in industry given its size. In my opinion a more prestigious firm in that scenario was one which had donea lot (good) work with various firms otherwise the recruiter just won't know whether you're bs'ing about the quality of work you have done.

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#9 RE: 50 most prestigious firms
19/12/2006 06:47

Eh? to DG (#8)

3 Mercer entries in the top 10 (I doubt that people made sufficient distinctions between the groups so they probably counted a vote for each) and someone called Parthenon Group who I looked up and have 140 people in 3 offices.

No, I can't find any fault with this list, definitely a definitive guide.

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