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Deal or no Deal ?

 
#1 Deal or no Deal ?
04/12/2006 20:13

JB

I've been offered 41k as a first year consultant at Deloitte TI.

Currently at ACN on 36.5k.

I'm slightly concerned about the length of time to make manager. At ACN I would be eligible in 2.75 years....at Deloitte probably 3.5/4 years? I would probably be making a fair amount more in the meantime though.

So...should I take it?

thanks,

JB

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#2 RE: Deal or no Deal ?
04/12/2006 20:55

anon to JB (#1)

Hi JB,

what was the interview process you went through? How long were you at ACN? Technical/non-tech?

Cheers

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#3 RE: Deal or no Deal ?
04/12/2006 21:32

JB to anon (#2)

anon,

The interview process was:

- 3 competency interviews (including 1st round)

- Case study/Presentation

- Essay

- Group Task

I have been at ACN for 2.75 years (recently made C1), and have pretty good technology experience.

thanks,

JB

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#4 RE: Deal or no Deal ?
04/12/2006 22:35

tg to JB (#3)

Hi JB,

Would appreciate if you could provide some interview tips.

1. Essay - What kind of topics they cover ?

2. case study - can u give some insight on this ?

Thanks

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#5 RE: Deal or no Deal ?
04/12/2006 23:47

anon to tg (#4)

That seems pretty nice, do many firms offer over 40 for a c1?

Is 36.5 fairly standard across accenture for A2's being promoted?

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#6 No deal.
05/12/2006 09:52

Bob to JB (#1)

I can see how £4.5k increase sounds tempting, but I don't think it will be worth it unless there are other reasons you are moving.

And what probably makes it worse is that a year ago as a C1 you would have been on £42.5k. But if you look at it that way, then Deloitte is also paying you less than ACN would have a year ago.

Deloitte is currently taking huge numbers of ACN consultants, probably by paying them all a bit more. But I can't see why they would be able to pay continuously more over the next 5-6 years.

Also, bear in mind that ACN is currently finalising the details of a pay adjustment. And if you do perform well at Accenture, it is very possible to make manager 6-12 months early. I've seen it happen. Whatever else is bad about Accenture, you do have the opportunity for fast career progression.

If you're unhappy with your role, your project, your colleagues, your alignment etc. at Accenture then speak to your CC and tell them frankly: "I want to change role/project etc., and I'm considering leaving." The attrition rates are currently so high they will bend over backwards to make you happy here.

Why should things be so different at Deloitte?

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#7 RE: No deal.
05/12/2006 10:14

JB to Bob (#6)

Bob,

It's not just rewards, I'm also considering moving for the following reasons:

- Smaller practice (I don't feel particularly "big-corporate" and would like to feel part of a closer-knit team)

- (Supposedly) more focus on high-value consulting

- (supposedly) Better work-life balance

- Better alignment to my strengths (I'm not in the right group at accenture and do not want to move internally as I do not rate the senior managers I've met from the appropriate group).

cheers,

JB

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#8 Anyone from Deloitte?
05/12/2006 11:28

Bob to JB (#7)

Anyone from Deloitte around who can confirm/refute the above conceptions?

- Does it have a small (or smaller) practice feel, is it as corporate as they come?

- Do you think it has more a greater focus on high-value consulting?

- What is the work-life balance like?

I would be interested to hear some insider views myself.

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#9 RE: Anyone from Deloitte?
05/12/2006 12:05

rainbow man to Bob (#8)

It does have a smaller corporate feel - especially if you are in the recenty divorced strategy practice. Its a tough place to get in to - and the recruitment process can be compared to MBBB ( i am in operations)

- work life balance, as you know, is dependant on project, level etc. so cant say. i work on average 8-7 - never a weekend.

- travel policy is great - per diem in UK is 45 quid, which does take the edge off.

anything else?

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#10 RE: Anyone from Deloitte?
05/12/2006 13:56

John P to rainbow man (#9)

Hi JB,

Does this £41K include benefits or is it just the basic salary?

John P

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#11 RE: Anyone from Deloitte?
05/12/2006 14:01

JB to John P (#10)

John,

The 41k is basic salary.

regards,

JB

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#12 RE: Anyone from Deloitte?
06/12/2006 09:07

John P to JB (#11)

Thanks.

Is it possible to know what the benefits are and especially how much it is worth?

Regards.

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#13 RE: Anyone from Deloitte?
06/12/2006 15:00

DC SC to John P (#12)

Deloitte Consultant benefits are only £500 - moving up to £5,000 for Senior Consultants

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