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desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband

 
#1 desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
19/09/2006 22:49

tanja

My husband was made redundant from big blue-chip company.He is 47 although looks 35 like me.We got a baby boy 12 weeks ago.He has not been searching for jobs as he was with a firm for 13 years,changing roles.As I understand he is searching for something like change management or similar. with ITIL thing.I do not know nothing about IT,but his sallary was around 70 k with good benefits.What should he ask for now as he has a lots of experience?I can see him being stressed as he has started job hunting just a week ago,and because of our baby does not share with me anything.He is very nice man ,and probably unaware of the fact how to present himself as he is very modest man.That is my opinion,who knows if I am right.What sallary should he look for regarding his experience and knowledge?How should he present himself?It is not easy at his age to search for job especially as things have changed a great deal for the past 13 years.Please help with advise.I just hope he never sees medoing this thread?Please Help with an honest advice.Waiting.

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#2 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 08:57

Paer to tanja (#1)

Tanja before I can help, can u pls ans the following ques:

When was he made redundant?

What position was he in last and which firm did he work for?

Where was the job located? 70K sounds a little on the low side.

Lastly are you willing to forward his CV? I could personally see to it that it reaches the right ppl and more importantly that they actually have a look at it.

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#3 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 09:33

Tanja to Paer (#2)

Dear PAer,his company was called P&O Neddloyd,you have probably seen on the news for IT people.They were bought by MEARSK LINE,and people have been gradualy made redundant.His redundancy came 10 weeks ago,just 3 days before I have given birth so because of my poor Ceaserian Section,and slow market he has started job search now.The company was based in the City-altgate East.I know that for the past lets say 3-4 years he was a Main Change manager for some operations,I have heard that that was the best project they did almost globaly.The company was doing containershiping.I WILL TRY TO FIND HIS cv.Thanks a lot

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#4 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 09:51

Tanja to Paer (#2)

Dear PAer ,where should I send you my husbands CV?Kind Regards

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#5 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 10:35

Paer to Tanja (#4)

Hey if you giveme your email I'll mail you and we can take it from there. Cheers

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#6 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 10:44

previously redundant to tanja (#1)

I was made redundant mid 40s from a blue chip company on similar salary. This is really stressfull and finding another position is likely to be a long and frustrating process however good his track record. People in jobs don't generally realise how hard this is.

Here are some top tips:

1) Be ready for rejection. If there are 100 applicants for each job then 99% are rejected. It is not personal. (But I have to admit I took it personally every time and made significantly more than 100 applications).

2) Network. This means calling people you know vaguely and finding an excuse to ask for advice. The golden rule is to ask if they could help you talk thru your CV and career goals as an independent 3rd party....do not ask them if they have any vacancies. Aim to pick up a new contact at each meeting and keep meeting people. Many jobs come through acquaintances.

3) Manage stress. This is critical for sanity and to maintain confidence at interviews. So take exercise, eat healthily, control alcohol, and keep busy (50% job hunting, 50% other activities, no daytime TV or internet surfing).

4) Supportive wife is important!

Good luck

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#7 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 18:43

Tanja to previously redundant (#6)

Thaks a lot for useful tips.I will try to be supportive as much as I can.I am so happy that people not only reply to questions but spare they time to help somebody in need.Wish you all the best.Any tips regarding interviews regarding your age,you know what I mean?What outlook they migh expect from elderly candidates?Thanks a lot once again.

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#8 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 18:44

Tanja to Paer (#5)

My e-mail address is Tanjabozic@btinternet.com.

Thanks a lot.

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#9 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 19:20

previously redundant to deleted (#0)

Age discrimination is real. There were several times where I was ideal on paper for a role but failed to get an interview and was told by the agent this was due to my age (43 at the time).

Age discrimination becomes illegal on 1st October. I think that means you can leave age and early experience off the CV without anyone being able to ask you. So as long as he looks young and can be enthusastic then no one will ever know.

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#10 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 19:23

Another Anon to deleted (#0)

Unfortunately it will be difficult to move into a consulting type role, given your husband's age and the role he was in.

Even though ageism is supposed to be illegal to discriminate on age. But in reality, at 47, most people if they are still in Consulting have made it and are Partners. Many will even have long ago retired and retreated to the golf course.

You may have to face up to the harsh reality that such a career option no longer exists, and look to retrain in another are, which obviously has significant financial implications.

My Dad's friend in the late 80's was the head of technology for a large US technology firm in the UK. He was in his early 40's at the time when the firm was taken over and he lost his job in the shake-up. After a year of fruitless searching, he cut his losses and ended up being a postman, which he does to this day. He just got on with it, and eventually accepted his new role and is content.

Unfortunatley this is a possible reality, since most firms will go for a younger model. It's human nature. Ask any male partner who has been married for 20 years!

Best of luck.

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#11 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 19:44

jj to Another Anon (#10)

I am afraid that is the reality today. Lots of experienced and formerly high flying people in their 40s are unemployed or underemployed.

Unlikely there will be an instant change 1st October. However remember it is only 30 years ago that job ads specified "man required to be solicitor".

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#12 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 21:02

Tanja to Another Anon (#10)

Dear Anothe Anon,jj,and previously redundant,thanks a lot for a nice comments.It is realy a nice feeling to have somebody share their true thoughts with other people in need.I hope he will ge a job but not worried for the time limits.You might find it silly,but as forigner I always thought than being a British born would open all the doors for you.Unfortunately it is not the case it seems.As I said he looks very well and of course does not have his date of birth on a CV.aNY MORE TIPS.tHANKS A LOT TO ALL KIND PEOPLE WILLING TO HELP.

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#13 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 21:12

EDSer to jj (#11)

EDS's consulting group are recruiting, all levels up to managing consultant. Drop me a CV.

Email: edser1234@yahoo.co.uk

With his experience contracting must also be an option.

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#14 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
20/09/2006 22:36

Tanja to EDSer (#13)

Dear EDser,I am doing that first thing in the morning.Very kind Regards Tanja

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#15 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
21/09/2006 11:25

John P to Tanja (#14)

Tanja,

I choose to disagree with some on this forum.

Although a lot of MCs are high flyers and get to partner by their early 40s. There is still a very large pool (that I have seen) who are Principals or Senior Managers in their late 40s or early 50s. And most in this pool usually joined from Industry.

With your husband's experience their is a good chance he can get in. Don't give up!

Capgemini has a contract with HMRC called ASPIRE. The recently created a consulting arm within this ASPIRE team as a seperate arm from the main consulting business. A few of those that they hired into this team have similar background to you husband and at least 4 were of similar age. I would advise you to tell your husband to look into applying to "ASPIRE Consulting Skill Centre".

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#16 RE: desperate wife trying to understand her IT Husband
21/09/2006 20:54

Tanja to John P (#15)

Thanks a lot John P and other kind people for your responses.Bless you all,and wish you and your families all the very best.

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