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RIp-Off

 
#1 RIp-Off
22/09/2005 19:38

Alfredo Quiles

Hi, I am interested in knowing what are the companies mentioned by David Craig (AKA Neil Glass) in his book "Rip-Off The scandalous inside story of the management consulting money machine".

He mentions:

- The Butchers

- The Family (possibly Cap Gemini?)

Any hints out there? Thanks in advance

Alfredo

PS: by the way, I highly recommend the book

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#2 Re: RIp-Off
23/09/2005 10:31

dhalting

Alfredo. The book does not mention names, as this would mean legal trouble for our friend. but you can easily work out who they are. I also recommend the book, as i use all the tricks.

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#3 Re: RIp-Off
23/09/2005 11:31

anon

Is this some lame attempt by the publisher to drum up some 'buzz'??

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#4 Re: RIp-Off
23/09/2005 11:50

grad

Could someone out there pls tell us who the firms are that he is refering to. Many grad like myself do not have a clue. Although there maybe legal implications (i dont know) surely there is a subtle way of doing it...please!

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#5 Re: RIp-Off
24/09/2005 13:29

dhalting

Mate, they are all the same. The first three companies in the book specialies in head-chopping - who are the big players here? work it out yourself.

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#6 Re: RIp-Off
24/09/2005 15:00

grad

How can i work it out if i have very little experience of consulting as im in my final year at uni. I could speculate but thats all it would be. Why are people so reluctant to state in their opinion who the firms are. If i knew the answers i wouldnt be asking th question. Sorry if i sound ignorant but my knowledge of the industry is embryonic

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#7 Re: RIp-Off
26/09/2005 18:39

One of the companies is Big and Blue. Does that help ?

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#8 Re: RIp-Off
26/09/2005 22:24

grad

hmmm, i think so but not totally sure. I know i must sound ignorant but when you have no experience or in depth knowledge of consulting its kinda hard...

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#9 Re: RIp-Off
27/09/2005 09:26

Three letter acronym: First letter I, Last letter M. I'll leave it up to you to piece it together

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#10 Re: RIp-Off
27/09/2005 11:32

grad

Yeah thanks for that. But what about the others he workef for that he mentioned in the begining of his book...butchers, baby butchers, etc. cheers

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#11 Re: RIp-Off
27/09/2005 12:39

Hi

I don't know if they are the Butchers, Baby Butchers or Plagiarists but they look interesting... heard of a company called George S. May?

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#12 Re: RIp-Off
27/09/2005 14:32

grad

No I havent. Are they an American firm?

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#13 For god's sake! Use Google!
27/09/2005 15:21

Annoyed

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#14 Re: For god's sake! Use Google!
27/09/2005 15:34

grad

Annoyed, take a chill pill dude.

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#15 Re: For god's sake! Use Google!
29/09/2005 12:24

a

Cap Gemini

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#16 Re: RIp-Off
10/01/2006 13:35

anon

The Butchers is potentially a reference to Proudfoot Consulting. They're an old consulting firm (60 years). I first thought it may have been Accenture but that didn't seem to fit. I'd say Accenture are the technologist.

The family could br PWC Consulting as it references the buyout by a large IT Services company (IBM) all though this could be a number of other such as EY.

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#17 RE: RIp-Off
26/12/2006 11:02

ex proudfoot to anon (#16)

The butchers are with absolute certainty Proudfoot Consulting. I read the book over holiday it was really funny to hear the old vocabulary (manload, time studies etc.) again. The more I think about this company & the clones are real "cowboys". God knows why they are still around.

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#18 RE: RIp-Off
26/12/2006 17:57

Gila to ex proudfoot (#17)

The book is about CG takeover of EY

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#19 RE: RIp-Off
28/12/2006 12:47

Big Blue to Gila (#18)

Its about IBMs disasterous takeover of PwC Consulting

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#20 RE: RIp-Off
28/12/2006 16:24

S to Big Blue (#19)

Another amusing read to consider is 'House of Lies' by Martin Kihn. It's more aimed at Strat Consulting, but nonetheless is very apt. It has had me in stiches and for any experienced consultant, and you will lose count of the number of times that an experience or account is one that you can relate to.

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#21 RE: RIp-Off
29/12/2006 11:50

Gila to S (#20)

Big Blue... you are wrong!

The underlying story is about CG... and the shambolic takeover of EY ... trust me I have insider info!

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