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Can a doctor become a management consultant?

 
#1 Can a doctor become a management consultant?
19/02/2002 00:00

Gitta

I am a 35 year old surgeon who has decided to change careers. I have a very academic CV and six years of work experience in the NHS. The more I learn about management consultancy, the more it appeals to me as a career. I believe that healthcare, pharmaceutical and biotech consultancy will be future boom areas and I would have a good background for working in those sectors. Does anyone else think that I stand a chance? Is there anyone who can give me some practical advice on how to approach my career change?

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#2 Re: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
20/02/2002 00:00

Paul

Gitta, I would try the MCA's website (www.mca.org.uk) where you will find the member firms broken down by areas of specialisation. Might give you an idea of which firms to target. Regards, Paul

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#3 Re: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
20/02/2002 00:00

Neil

I would also consider studying for an MBA at either London Business School or Cranfield in the UK or Insead or IMD in mainland Europe. I suggest that you take a look at the respective business school websites along with other assciated MBA sites that will provide a further overview. Good luck

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#4 Re: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
27/02/2002 00:00

Don Leslie

Gitta: I've recruited a number of medical doctors into management consultancy over the years. The common threads in their CVs were exceptional medical careers with top academic achievement. The usual homes for such candidates are the big strategy houses and, occasionally, specialist pharma/life sciences consultancies.

Six years of doctoring is, however, longer than most consultancies prefer. Going to a very top business school might get you into specialist consultancy, or into a corporate role which might lead on, in two or three years, into consulting. But to be honest, I fear you've left it too late. Good luck.

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#5 Re: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
19/08/2003 00:00

LG

Any advice from doctors who have changed careers to go into management consulting? It's something I am thinking about .

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#6 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
15/04/2008 16:56

Andrew to Gitta (#1)

There is a massive movement towards improving processes in the NHS by using lean, six-sigma and Theory of Constraints. Have you considered the Fellowship in Manufacturing Management at Cranfield?

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#7 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
15/04/2008 18:58

ExDr to Andrew (#6)

I am a doctor that now works in one of those strategy houses Don mentioned above. I have also worked with his agency in the past. Have a few minutes to spare so a few thoughts:

35 is unfortunately really pushing it somewhat. You will be older than some of the partners, yet at least 7 or so years behind them in career terms, maybe more.

Age will also be a problem due to the lifestyle. This job is harder than any medical job I did, generally in terms of pressure to deliver, long hours etc. It is a tough environment driven by financial gain and when you are in the office you are constantly working. There is no lying in the mess, it is 70ish hours per week of constant work. Being in the office till midnight every night or away from home for weeks at a time is no fun

when you are mid 30s with young kids. And the hours are very much unpredictable, unlike on-calls, so expect to be routinely cancelling dinner plans, drinks etc etc

Having said that, you wouldn't get me back into clinical medicine for anything - I enjoy this way more. The work is interesting, future options are great, the pay is incomparable, you get perks, you feel appreciated. The contrast with the NHS couldn't be bigger.

For people thinking about it now, my advice:

1) If it is the right time for you then get on with it asap. There are hundreds of doctors looking to move, and only a very small % will make it. You are already behind the curve and so do not have the luxury of hanging around. If now is not the right time for you then work out when is and start preparing/planning now. In my opinion, the optimum time is either immediately on registration or after 3-4 years when you have an exam.

2) Get professional advice on your CV and cover letter from a reputable agency. Pay if you have to. A medical CV and cover letter is totally inappropriate for the business world.

3) Research, research, research. You cannot know enough about the industry and, believe me, it is immediately apparent within seconds of talking to someone whether they are for real or not. In that regard treat every interaction with someone at a firm that you would like to interview with as an interview. You will be judged on everything (at least by me) and if you come across as unprepared or not fully motivated then your place will go to someone else.

4) Come up with a very convincing story as to why you are leaving medicine. All the firms are well aware of MMC and will be actively looking to weed out those that really want to be surgeons but got shafted by the system. These firms want people that are ranked top in their classes at the best universities, and have consistently been top of their peer group. So you need a story to explain what has happened to you, why you are making this choice to leave medicine, and why you are making it now as opposed to two years ago. If you are a victim of MMC, don't say that in an interview - talk about why you want to work in consulting, not whay you are leaving medicine.

5) Practice business cases. Chances are you will never have done one, in which case it will be completely alien and you are extremely unlikely to do well unless you have practiced a lot

6) Expect it to take months rather than weeks, assume that you won't get in and establish plans B,C and D. This could be pharma, MBA or anything else, but I would definitely have applications to all running parallel to avoid having large gaps in your CV. A couple of years in pharma will look much better than continued drifting in clinical medicine and will add skills that are far more useful in a consulting environment should you switch later on.

Hope that is of some help

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#8 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
15/04/2008 18:59

ExDr to ExDr (#7)

Oh, and personally I would avoid companies that do NHS work like the plague - but that's just my opinion

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#9 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
17/04/2008 22:06

why to ExDr (#8)

Unless you're a sh*t doctor, why on earth would you want to do this?

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#10 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
18/04/2008 02:35

dr love to why (#9)

doctors get more women

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#11 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
18/04/2008 12:58

ExDr to dr love (#10)

Due to the labour government interfering and trying to fix a system that wasn't broken, being a doctor is no longer the safe, enjoyable, reasonably lucrative career it once was.

Many doctors are now therefore looking to do other stuff.

And doctors that do other things are still doctors and therfore still manage to get the odd woman - they just have a bit more money to take them out with and a nicer flat to take them to after.

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#12 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
18/04/2008 14:05

Anon to ExDr (#11)

Some news:

Being a consultant is not:

a) Safe (think being shipped off to work in the middle east for a project)

b) Secure (hire and fire, up or out, always first to get the chop)

c) Always particularly enjoyable (unless you dig long hours and lots of report writing, dysfunctional teams plus lots of stress and deadlines)

d) Lucrative (particularly on an hourly rate basis).

Personally I'd stick to writing sick notes between 8am-4.30pm for £100K a year.

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#13 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
18/04/2008 14:32

Consultant of Lurve to Gitta (#1)

Do what I did; turn up, get on with it.

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#14 RE: Can a doctor become a management consultant?
18/04/2008 16:07

ExDr to Consultant of Lurve (#13)

Anon, some news:

Being a doctor is not:

a) Safe (think MMC and being told after 6 years of medical school and 8 or so more years of training that you will never make consultant but will instead forever remain a 'sub-consultant' on £46,000 a year.

b) Secure (more med students and junior doctors than jobs. Up or out as always, except worse these days)

c) Always particularly enjoyable (unless you dig long hours and lots of report writing, form-filling, dysfunctional teams plus lots of stress and deadlines. And people dying.)

d) Lucrative (particularly on an hourly rate basis).

There are virtually no doctors that earn £100,000 for 8-4:30. I didn't realise they had the daily mail in the Middle East so however did you get that impression??

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